Thank you Haruna.
Demba
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> For what its worth Demba, brother Karim, and JDAM,
>
> I have spoken with Yankuba Jambang and i asked him if he is the author of
> the culprit gaucherie he published on Senegambianews. He said it was sent to
> him for publication.
> I then suggested to him that even if he did not author the listless banter,
> would he consider pulling it because it was in poor taste and the perception
> is that he is complicit or desiring of its publication. He said he would
> consider pulling it down because the audience of Senegambia views it in poor
> taste and malignant.
>
> I did not ask Yankuba of his opinion of the case Samba V Nderry & Freedom,
> nor did I ask him of his opinion of the quality of journalism at Freedom.
> These two are not of enough concern to me at this hour. I pray that Yankuba
> yields to his wiser counsel and either pulls it down or at least edits it
> because that culprit note bemoans the lack of profuse editing at Freedom.
>
> Ith khaalal hawaariyyoona yaa-Eesaa ibna Maryama hal yasta-tee'U rabbuka An
> yunazzila Alaynaa Maa-Idatan mina-Ssamaa'E, khaala attakhoo Llaaha In kuntum
> mu'Umineena. Sura Al Maa'Ida.
>
> Haruna.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>
> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 2, 2010 4:28 pm
> Subject: Re: [>-<] Interesting Story on Senegambianews!!!
>
> Thanks LJD. Always appreciate your wise counsel and in the company of
> both of you.
>
> Demba
>
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> Demba
>>
>> "Collective" smirks of communism for ATT Jr, and he is not fond of the
>> word.
>> I perfectly appreciate your context, but I have to say ATT Jr is on to
>> something sublime.
>> Supposing His Excellency SHEPAD Yahya A J J Jammeh (the
>> Professor) inhabits The Gambia with only citizens of Jola ethnicity, do you
>> think he would have exercised public power any differently? Notwithstanding
>> political grandstanding, the answer is no.
>>
>> We are aware of the unprincipled frictions in the on-line media industry.
>> We are also aware of the deep divisions within opposition Gambia. And the
>> Professor is supposedly the common enemy of these "collectives"!
>>
>> As for Yankuba, he is in urgent need of self-restraint. Last year, he
>> boated about possessing the ability to 'destroy' Fatou Jaw Manneh's
>> reputation because "over 1000 people visit Senegambia daily". Pa Musa Jallow
>> temporarily boycotted Senegambia over that incredibly hubristic statement.
>> And now this misjudged reference to the dispute between Amadou Samba
>> and Freedom. The pristine
>> foundations of a media collective? Not at all!
>>
>> It is irrelevant who wrote the piece in so far as Yankuba exclusively
>> controls the content of Senegambia. On the law and facts, the outcome of
>> Samba v Freedom is not a foregone conclusion. Samba is unlikely to win, but
>> he will not get the $10,000 he is asking for.
>>
>> For what it is worth, and in our current public life realities, I think
>> on-line media houses are providing good education and entertainment. In a
>> new Gambia, of course, the territory is likely to be significantly
>> different, and the current on-line media are at different levels of
>> preparedness for that eventuality.
>>
>> ATT Jr. echoes Rene's contention that supposed tribal affinity is a
>> "mirage". I happen to think this is completely true.
>>
>> ATT Jr and I are both of Mandinka extraction, but I would not want him
>> vested with absolute power in the sense he is unlikely to distinguish
>> between Demba, LJD, Rene, Pa Nderry, etc, etc.
>>
>> Ultimately, the rule of law is the only answer.
>>
>> What do you plan to do with the word "collective"? I like it, but our
>> resident philosopher doesn't. I do not envy your quandary!
>>
>>
>> LJD
>>
>>
>> -- On *Thu, 2/9/10, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [>-<] Interesting Story on Senegambianews!!!
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Thursday, 2 September, 2010, 10:25
>>
>>
>> Indeed brother Demba that is what I thought you were alluding to.....
>> Press Freedom being the collective struggle of all. Better conducted by the
>> non-Press. (...collective salvation....non-sequitur....). You see how this
>> "collective struggle" runs headlong into the other "collective struggle" for
>> Speech Freedom don't you? This has been the landmark quandry of the
>> unprofessional journalist. To be or not to be. That is why in this era of
>> profuse and diffuse press without the discerning tutelage, the struggles
>> become uncollective, to rely on the content of one's character.
>>
>> i said you're too generous for my sanity. If you refuse to reconsider your
>> collective struggle concept now, you will have to discern Press later. When
>> it may be too late. You know Yahya and Wade have Press too don't you? I
>> still love you Demba. Haruna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thu, Sep 2, 2010 2:16 am
>> Subject: Re: [>-<] Interesting Story on Senegambianews!!!
>>
>> Thanks Haruna. The "collective struggle" I keep referencing is the fight
>> for press freedom. The suppression of such freedom is what led to the birth
>> of all the Gambian online media " the real July 22nd movement" if I may
>> borrow from Baba. Thus the collective struggle.
>>
>> Thanks for sharing though.
>>
>> Demba
>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> No Demba I didn't miss anything that was present in the gaucherie you
>> forwarded from Senegambianews.
>>
>> Maybe I should share some sentiments with you here;
>>
>> I agree with Karim. If the rambling came from Yankuba Jambang, the
>> proprietor of Senegambianews, it is in poor taste and I will be thoroughly
>> disappointed in him as a person.
>>
>> It is a bad idea for a proprietor of a newspaper, online or print, to use
>> his/her newspaper to settle personal scores or engage in listless banter.
>>
>> If the author of the crap is expressing frustration at Nderry's editorial
>> quality at Freedom, or its attendant consequences for journalists as a
>> whole, then he/she has not aleviated that frustration any.
>>
>> In any case of Samba V. Gambian Tunkara, I will err on the side of Gambian
>> Tunkara and not Samba. Journalist or no journalist.
>>
>> Demba, perhaps it is a good time to encourage you to revisit your
>> COLLECTIVE STRUGGLE concept. It is malignantly vague. Even from your
>> position in GPU-USA, it may become overly burdensome to assume all
>> journalists are engaged in some common identifiable struggle that warrants
>> common conscription, forsaking sobriety and commonsense. By their very
>> nature, journalists cannot be engaged in any collective struggle. they
>> definitely need collective salvation but that is non-sequitur to their
>> industry.
>>
>> I judge a man/woman by the content of his/her character, not profession.
>> Particularly in this era of profuse and diffuse journalism. I hope you
>> wouldn't misunderstand what I share with you. If the gaucherie came from
>> Yankuba Jambang, there's a way to handle that easily and we were on our way
>> to doing that when you abandoned me midway in that struggle. To chase after
>> some nondescript collective struggle. My conversation of context was aimed
>> at rendering it benign, unreasonable, and wrongheaded. But you were focused
>> on the Domi Haram insignificance. I have heard worse from newspapers, online
>> or print. it is the man/woman behind the Domi haram insult I was attempting
>> to render harmless. To reconnoitre right. You will agree with me that
>> newspaper proprietors are difficult creatures to tame. That is because they
>> are under the illusion they know more than their readers. The most effective
>> form of contrition and reconnaissance for a journalist is to retract a story
>> from, apologise, or admit ignorance on your own paper. That is the
>> anaesthetic/antiseptic, quoi que ca soit.
>>
>> I feel you Demba. You're too generous a soul for my sanity.
>>
>> Haruna.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]>
>> >
>> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]>
>> >
>> Sent: Wed, Sep 1, 2010 4:40 pm
>> Subject: Re: [>-<] Interesting Story on Senegambianews!!!
>>
>> Karim, thanks for weighing in. I personally hold all online editors
>> at high esteem and think that they are making an incredible personal
>> sacrifice in running their online papers/blogs and bringing us the daily
>> news.
>>
>> To allow that level of sacrifice to be reduced to a new low or to turn
>> away good readers is just something I cannot comprehend.
>>
>> I was hoping that the good friends of the esteem editor can reach out to
>> him and encourage him to not allow anger and frustration to get the best out
>> of him.
>>
>> Our struggle as you said, demands a much more sober and high level
>> tolerance to our indifferences. No one among us would gain anything by going
>> after each other.
>>
>> I quote Dr. King again who said "*I cannot be where I ought to be until
>> you are where you ought to be" *
>> Our collective struggle and sacrifice is highly symbiotic and we are all
>> bunch in the same bucket as regards to the enemies of the struggle.
>>
>> So I just wanted to sound off a precaution and call for exercise of
>> restrain and level headedness in our daily sacrifices in case my respected
>> friend Haruna miss the point.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Demba
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:21 PM, abdoukarim sanneh <
>> [log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Demba
>> It is a clear test of rude and arrogance. A few running online media think
>> they have the license insult people I wander if it is not a silly mistake.
>> They turn our struggle into a personal infight with arrogance and upmanship.
>> They are illusionist who think they can dictate the agenda. Many of us are
>> in these fight before the genesis of of their blog. It is clear what Yankuba
>> Jambang is making reference to but such a remark is rude sand childish.
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 01:58:10 -0700
>>
>> Subject: [>-<] Interesting Story on Senegambianews!!!
>> From: [log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]>
>>
>> This is an interesting story on Senegambianews:
>>
>>
>> http://senegambianews.com/article/Todays_Message/Todays_Message/Editor_Please_edit_edit_edit_and_edit_Or_throw_away_some_of_these_nonsenses/19259
>>
>> Just food for thought....
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Demba
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