Thank you Haruna.
 
Demba

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
For what its worth Demba, brother Karim, and JDAM,
 
I have spoken with Yankuba Jambang and i asked him if he is the author of the culprit gaucherie he published on Senegambianews. He said it was sent to him for publication.
I then suggested to him that even if he did not author the listless banter, would he consider pulling it because it was in poor taste and the perception is that he is complicit or desiring of its publication. He said he would consider pulling it down because the audience of Senegambia views it in poor taste and malignant.
 
I did not ask Yankuba of his opinion of the case Samba V Nderry & Freedom, nor did I ask him of his opinion of the quality of journalism at Freedom. These two are not of enough concern to me at this hour. I pray that Yankuba yields to his wiser counsel and either pulls it down or at least edits it because that culprit note bemoans the lack of profuse editing at Freedom.
 
Ith khaalal hawaariyyoona yaa-Eesaa ibna Maryama hal yasta-tee'U rabbuka An yunazzila Alaynaa Maa-Idatan mina-Ssamaa'E, khaala attakhoo Llaaha In kuntum mu'Umineena. Sura Al Maa'Ida.
 
Haruna.
-----Original Message-----
From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thu, Sep 2, 2010 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: [>-<] Interesting Story on Senegambianews!!!

Thanks LJD. Always appreciate your wise counsel and in the company of both of you.
 
Demba

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Demba
 
"Collective" smirks of communism for ATT Jr, and he is not fond of the word.
I perfectly appreciate your context, but I have to say ATT Jr is on to something sublime.
Supposing His Excellency SHEPAD Yahya A J J Jammeh (the Professor) inhabits The Gambia with only citizens of Jola ethnicity, do you think he would have exercised public power any differently? Notwithstanding political grandstanding, the answer is no.
 
We are aware of the unprincipled frictions in the on-line media industry. We are also aware of the deep divisions within opposition Gambia. And the Professor is supposedly the common enemy of these "collectives"!
 
As for Yankuba, he is in urgent need of self-restraint. Last year, he boated about possessing the ability to 'destroy' Fatou Jaw Manneh's reputation because "over 1000 people visit Senegambia daily". Pa Musa Jallow temporarily boycotted Senegambia over that incredibly hubristic statement. And now this misjudged reference to the dispute between Amadou Samba and Freedom. The pristine
foundations of a media collective? Not at all!
 
It is irrelevant who wrote the piece in so far as Yankuba exclusively controls the content of Senegambia. On the law and facts, the outcome of Samba v Freedom is not a foregone conclusion. Samba is unlikely to win,  but he will not get the $10,000 he is asking for.
 
For what it is worth, and in our current public life realities, I think on-line media houses are providing good education and entertainment. In a new Gambia, of course, the territory is likely to be significantly different, and the current on-line media are at different levels of preparedness for that eventuality. 
 
ATT Jr. echoes Rene's contention that supposed tribal affinity is a "mirage". I happen to think this is completely true. 
 
ATT Jr and I are both of Mandinka extraction, but I would not want him vested with absolute power in the sense he is unlikely to distinguish between Demba, LJD, Rene, Pa Nderry, etc, etc.
 
Ultimately, the rule of law is the only answer.
 
 What do you plan to do with the word "collective"? I like it, but our resident philosopher doesn't. I do not envy your quandary! 
 
 
LJD
 
 
-- On Thu, 2/9/10, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: [>-<] Interesting Story on Senegambianews!!!
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Thursday, 2 September, 2010, 10:25


Indeed brother Demba that is what I thought you were alluding to..... Press Freedom being the collective struggle of all. Better conducted by the non-Press. (...collective salvation....non-sequitur....). You see how this "collective struggle" runs headlong into the other "collective struggle" for Speech Freedom don't you? This has been the landmark quandry of the unprofessional journalist. To be or not to be. That is why in this era of profuse and diffuse press without the discerning tutelage, the struggles become uncollective, to rely on the content of one's character.
 
i said you're too generous for my sanity. If you refuse to reconsider your collective struggle concept now, you will have to discern Press later. When it may be too late. You know Yahya and Wade have Press too don't you? I still love you Demba. Haruna

-----Original Message-----
From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thu, Sep 2, 2010 2:16 am
Subject: Re: [>-<] Interesting Story on Senegambianews!!!

Thanks Haruna. The "collective struggle" I keep referencing is the fight for press freedom. The suppression of such freedom is what led to the birth of all the Gambian online media " the real July 22nd movement" if I may borrow from Baba. Thus the collective struggle.
 
Thanks for sharing though.
 
Demba
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">[log in to unmask]> wrote:
No Demba I didn't miss anything that was present in the gaucherie you forwarded from Senegambianews.
 
Maybe I should share some sentiments with you here;
 
I agree with Karim. If the rambling came from Yankuba Jambang, the proprietor of Senegambianews, it is in poor taste and I will be thoroughly disappointed in him as a person.
 
It is a bad idea for a proprietor of a newspaper, online or print, to use his/her newspaper to settle personal scores or engage in listless banter.
 
If the author of the crap is expressing frustration at Nderry's editorial quality at Freedom, or its attendant consequences for journalists as a whole, then he/she has not aleviated that frustration any.
 
In any case of Samba V. Gambian Tunkara, I will err on the side of Gambian Tunkara and not Samba. Journalist or no journalist.
 
Demba, perhaps it is a good time to encourage you to revisit your COLLECTIVE STRUGGLE concept. It is malignantly vague. Even from your position in GPU-USA, it may become overly burdensome to assume all journalists are engaged in some common identifiable struggle that warrants common conscription, forsaking sobriety and commonsense. By their very nature, journalists cannot be engaged in any collective struggle. they definitely need collective salvation but that is non-sequitur to their industry.
 
I judge a man/woman by the content of his/her character, not profession. Particularly in this era of profuse and diffuse journalism. I hope you wouldn't misunderstand what I share with you. If the gaucherie came from Yankuba Jambang, there's a way to handle that easily and we were on our way to doing that when you abandoned me midway in that struggle. To chase after some nondescript collective struggle. My conversation of context was aimed at rendering it benign, unreasonable, and wrongheaded. But you were focused on the Domi Haram insignificance. I have heard worse from newspapers, online or print. it is the man/woman behind the Domi haram insult I was attempting to render harmless. To reconnoitre right. You will agree with me that newspaper proprietors are difficult creatures to tame. That is because they are under the illusion they know more than their readers. The most effective form of contrition and reconnaissance for a journalist is to retract a story from, apologise, or admit ignorance on your own paper. That is the anaesthetic/antiseptic, quoi que ca soit.
 
I feel you Demba. You're too generous a soul for my sanity. 

Haruna.

-----Original Message-----
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To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wed, Sep 1, 2010 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: [>-<] Interesting Story on Senegambianews!!!

  Karim, thanks for weighing in. I personally hold all online editors at high esteem and think that they are making an incredible personal sacrifice in running their online papers/blogs and bringing us the daily news.
 
To allow that level of sacrifice to be reduced to a new low or to turn away good readers is just something I cannot comprehend. 
 
I was hoping that the good friends of the esteem editor can reach out to him and encourage him to not allow anger and frustration to get the best out of him.
 
Our struggle as you said, demands a much more sober and high level tolerance to our indifferences. No one among us would gain anything by going after each other.
 
I quote Dr. King again who said "I cannot be where I ought to be until you are where you ought to be"
Our collective struggle and sacrifice is highly symbiotic and we are all bunch in the same bucket as regards to the enemies of the struggle.
 
So I just wanted to sound off a precaution and call for exercise of restrain and level headedness in our daily sacrifices in case my respected friend Haruna miss the point.
 
Thanks

Demba


On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:21 PM, abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Demba
It is a clear test of rude and arrogance. A few running online media think they have the license insult people I wander if it is not a silly mistake. They turn our struggle into a personal infight with arrogance and upmanship. They are illusionist who think they can dictate the agenda. Many of us are in these fight before the genesis of of their blog. It is clear what Yankuba Jambang is making reference to but such a remark is  rude sand childish.
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