John, you said that you have your 4BTV ground mounted. Is it just mounted to
a pipe you buried in the ground, and like Dave reported to us, do you have
radials connected to it? If you are using radials, how many for each band?
Do you know what your SWR is on various bands? 

Ron, K8HSY


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of John Miller
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 6:01 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Question about antennas

I have the 5BTV ground mounted and honestly I don't really see it being as
noisy as I expected hearing my whole time as a ham how noisy verticals are. 
Height might make a difference but with being in a trailer park and all
buildings being the same height, I'd have to guide it like crazy if I went
above the roof. I did think about it. I have it guided now with very light
rope tied to the house and shed but still half of it is above the roof line
of all buildings in this area for miles so when we get wind, it sure gets
the worst of it. I did it to be safe.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Basden" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: Question about antennas


>I used the 4BTV with four radials on each band on my rooftop and it  
>worked extremely well.  It was noisy like all verticals, but DX was  
>readily available.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave, W7OQ
>
> At 09:25 AM 11/29/2013, you wrote:
>>I have the Alpha Delta DX-EE, and it's a good dipole.  I've had good 
>>luck with it for the past few years, even though I have it in my 
>>attic.  I haven't used one that's exposed to the elements though, so I 
>>can't tell you how it holds up under adverse weather.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dr. Ronald E. Milliman
>>Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 11:15 AM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Question about antennas
>>
>>Is there anyone here on our list personally familiar with either of 
>>these antennas, and if so, what feedback can you give me about them?
>>
>>1. The Alpha Delta DX-EE
>>
>>Description: Alpha Delta "ISO-RES" inductors replace lossy traps and 
>>capacitors, rated for Full Power; Direct 50 ohm feed, no antenna tuner 
>>is required except for extended frequency coverage; Fully assembled 
>>with insulated #12 copper wire, stainless hardware and 50 ft. of nylon 
>>rope; Includes the DELTA-C static protected center insulator and 
>>DELTA-CIN end insulators; Installs horizontally OR as an inverted V;
covers:
>>40-20-15-10M
>>plus 30-17-12M using a Wide Range Tuner, 40' Multi-band Antenna.
>>
>>
>>2. Hustler 4BTV -- 4 Band Trap Vertical
>>
>>Description: 4 Band Vertical HF Fixed Station covering 10,  15, 20, 
>>and 40 Meters; 21'.
>>
>>Ron, K8HSY