A question for Mr. Follett on the issue of international lurking. Was
Jeremy penalized for his self acknowledged lurking or was his removal an
act of mercy?
Currently a domestic lurker.
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Subject: RE: Activity on the Preservation-L list?
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:50:58 +1300
From: Jeremy Salmond <[log in to unmask]>
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Relocation is increasingly regarded as an acceptable conservation
practice in New Zealand, partly because it has always been part of our
history, but mainly because it deals with the problem of buildings which
are in the way of "progress". Many people seem not to understand the
importance of "place", and that this is a key ingredient of cultural
significance in our heritage. So often, the significance of a building
or structure relies on its qualities of representativeness and
ordinariness - in that place. The mere existence of an "outdoor museum"
encourages people to proceed on the basis that relocation will solve all
practical and preservation problems.
Historically, in this country, buildings were moved from place to place
for pragmatic reasons, and that is an important part of our heritage.
This is recognised in the ICOMOS New Zealand Charter for the
Conservation of Places of Cultural Heritage Value"
(http://www.icomos.org.nz/). But it is a different matter to use this
technique as a primary means of preservation, except as a method of last
resort. The fact that it is technically possible to do so in a country
where timber frame construction is the predominant domestic form of
construction further encourages the practice (and as architects, we've
been part of this process ourselves).
It's wonderful to see the list animated again - even if only briefly.
I've been encouraged and gratified in the past by responses to technical
questions, and now have spasmodic correspondence with some of our
colleagues in North America (hi John). I recall when the conversations
were frequent, reflective and often jocose, but some of that seemed to
be siphoned off to Bullamanka Pinheads. I subscribed to that list too,
but I think I was kicked off for lurking and not participating. And
then, after September 2001, it all seemed to fall silent?
It's important to see heritage conservation/preservation as a
professional activity at an international level. While we all should
talk to colleagues in our own counties, there is so much to be gained
from correspondence across national boundaries. I hope this continues.
I've been a member of APT (APT-I ?) for about ten years, but ironically,
although adopting the "international" suffix, I have a greater sense of
non-inclusion than when I first joined. I'm sure that's my own fault,
but it would be a less acute paranoia if chatlists like this were more
active.
with kind regards to all
Jeremy Salmond
14 Glen Road
Devonport
Auckland 1309
New Zealand
tel: +64 9 445 2573
fax: +64 9 445 9525
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From: Stuart Kaye [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 7:25 AM
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Subject: Re: Activity on the Preservation-L list?
Yes, the activity on the list _is_ low. I am not sure whether this is
because the number of subscribers is small and/or there are other ways
in which preservation/conservation people are communicating.
Just to throw something out, I have been roaming around back roads for a
number of years tracking down, schools, barns, churches, cemeteries and
so on.
One of the things that distresses me is the tendency (at least in this
province) to move items to another location . There are quite a number
of places where a bunch of transplanted buildings are "conveniently"
displayed for public viewing. Sometimes, they are assembled into a "street."
Just before I ask for input, let me reveal my biases. I am becoming
increasingly agitated by this process, since these streets can distort
history. For example, by having two items that __never__ occurred
together, or by having items from disparate historical periods.
I am slowly writing a piece about this whenever my knickers get another
twist on the knot.
I would like to know if anyone would like to share their thoughts on
this issue, and also point me to any writing on the subject.
Thanks,
Stuart
Dr. Stuart M. Kaye
Senior Scholar
Psychology Department Internet: [log in to unmask]
University of Manitoba Work Phone: (204) 474-8419
Winnipeg MB R3T 2N2 Fax: (204) 474-7599
Home Phone: (204) 488-7818
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