Hello George, & all,

Has this become a political bashing group?  Funny, I thought it was a
computer user's group.  Try keeping your trashing & bashing, if not in your
trash-talking mouth, then off of lists that have nothing to do with that
political BS.  Please quit wasting my time telling others what you and your
personal bitterness in life feel toward any particular group, will you?  If
you don't agree with the previous statement about accessing directories,
fine.  But that did not necessitate or give you any leeway to rant for
several paragraphs with nothing that truly had to do with the topic or
technology as is discussed here.

As I suppose you might have, I felt a need to respond to this idiocy due to
a couple of humorously moronic statements, such as you telling someone else
not to speak for the millions who you then immediately presumed to speak
for yourself.  Give me a break.  The original poster stated their
position/feelings a bit more logically and less passionately, and was
easier to let slide, whether I agreed or not.

But you seem rather pathetic in your own right, getting so high & mighty on
those who simply believe in doing for themselves whenever possible.  This
is rhetorical, so don't waste your time responding to me on it, but, I
wonder, what is wrong in your head that you feel such a devilish need to
berate and downplay someone's urge for independence?  No matter, to me,
really. Just please  keep this political bS off a list that is not designed
for such BS.  We both know there are plenty of lists where you can join the
sods putting either side down and wasting all their time doing so, if it
means that much to you.  So let's try sticking to tech talk.  Quit wasting
my time, please, with this BS.

Thank you.


Sincerely,
Everett


Everett Gavel
In Northeast Ohio, USA
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"Begin with the Goal, and End with the Gold!"


At 03:17 PM 8/7/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>     Terri said ...
>
>"Hey, wait a minute. Where did this sense of entitlement come from. The only
>reason wired lan lines offer free directory assistance is because it
>provides equal access for blind persons to their published print phone book.
>There isn't a published print directory that wireless companies provide for
>their customers. Thus, sighted have to pay for directory assistants, so why
>not blind people. That is reverse discrimination. I am blind and I hope
>others will join me in speaking out against this."
>
>
>Sorry, Terri, but I will join others in speaking out against you instead,
>and the absurdly ludicrous positions of you and your NFB, which insists on
>punishing those of us who are blind or visually-impaired, because we refuse
>to act like Super Blinks, who can single-handedly climb every mountain,
>safely cross every street, and allow seven year old girls to drown, just to
>prove that, being blind, we're somehow superior to everyone else,
>particularly the  sighted population.
>
>If you, and your cronies at NFB, want to do everything yourselves, without
>anyone else's  assistance, be my guest.  I'd be the last one to lend you a
>helping hand.
>
>But don't you dare claim to speak for the millions of us, who are blind or
>visually-impaired, and who wouldn't join the NFB, if our lives depended on
>it.
>
>I'm getting very sick and tired of the Federationists spouting off all the
>time, claiming to speak for us, and others who are unable to see, telling
>the world that we don't need free directory assistance, audible crossing
>signals, warning strips at railroad platforms, descriptive video so we can
>know what's happening on our TV screens, Guide Dogs to lead us, and all
>those other wonderful endeavors that the NFB opposes , to punish, and
>endanger the lives of the millions of us who do not, and will not associate
>ourselves with the likes of the Federationists who, we are firmly convinced,
>are not only visually-impaired, but mentally deficient as well.
>
>Your group's positions on these matters border on the insane.  Can you
>imagine people who use wheelchairs, actively campaigning against curb cuts,
>wheelchair ramps and disabled-accessible toilets, because some people might
>think that they can't walk up the stairs all by themselves?  Well guess
>what?  They can't!
>
>And, because NFBers are too dense to realize it, I'd better spell it out for
>you -- the blind can't see!  Get it?  We're blind!
>
>The only reverse discrimination going on here, is the NFB actively  working
>and campaigning AGAINST the blind!  So go spout your verbal diarrhea
>somewhere else, or just wait until your next national convention, where you
>can try to appear normal, among the other malcontents and misfits of life.
>
>-- George )who speaks for himself, and will take every opportunity to point
>out the insanity of the NFB, it's positions, and the people who support
>them.)
>


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