I have to ask this of you.  This is not to say that I necessarily agreee with Tarry, or with you, but, what did your last argument, if it was one, have to do with whether one should be entitled to free Directory Assistance through pcs?  It sounded like just a personal attack on an organization which we aren't even sure Terry is a part of anyway.  He is allowed his opinion regardless if he's with ACB or NFB, or even if he's not a part of either organization.
I think he came up with a valid argument against free Directory Assistance to blind people through PCS, since it is true that wireless companies are not providing free public phone books.
I can't say as to whether I feel I'm entitled to free Directory assistance through a Wireless service because I am blind, although through land line service which provides free phone books to sighties, I do feel that we as blind persons should have free Directory assistance.
But, through a wireless service, I'm really not sure whether I'd necessarily agree there.  And, I am an ACB member who takes pride in the fact that ACB is at least willing to be opened minded about what people may feel whether we agree with all the views ACB endorses or not.





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On 8/7/2003 at 15:17 George Cassell wrote:

>Terri said ...
>
>"Hey, wait a minute. Where did this sense of entitlement come from. The
>only
>reason wired lan lines offer free directory assistance is because it
>provides equal access for blind persons to their published print phone
>book.
>There isn't a published print directory that wireless companies provide for
>their customers. Thus, sighted have to pay for directory assistants, so why
>not blind people. That is reverse discrimination. I am blind and I hope
>others will join me in speaking out against this."
>
>
>Sorry, Terri, but I will join others in speaking out against you instead,
>and the absurdly ludicrous positions of you and your NFB, which insists on
>punishing those of us who are blind or visually-impaired, because we refuse
>to act like Super Blinks, who can single-handedly climb every mountain,
>safely cross every street, and allow seven year old girls to drown, just to
>prove that, being blind, we're somehow superior to everyone else,
>particularly the  sighted population.
>
>If you, and your cronies at NFB, want to do everything yourselves, without
>anyone else's  assistance, be my guest.  I'd be the last one to lend you a
>helping hand.
>
>But don't you dare claim to speak for the millions of us, who are blind or
>visually-impaired, and who wouldn't join the NFB, if our lives depended on
>it.
>
>I'm getting very sick and tired of the Federationists spouting off all the
>time, claiming to speak for us, and others who are unable to see, telling
>the world that we don't need free directory assistance, audible crossing
>signals, warning strips at railroad platforms, descriptive video so we can
>know what's happening on our TV screens, Guide Dogs to lead us, and all
>those other wonderful endeavors that the NFB opposes , to punish, and
>endanger the lives of the millions of us who do not, and will not associate
>ourselves with the likes of the Federationists who, we are firmly
>convinced,
>are not only visually-impaired, but mentally deficient as well.
>
>Your group's positions on these matters border on the insane.  Can you
>imagine people who use wheelchairs, actively campaigning against curb cuts,
>wheelchair ramps and disabled-accessible toilets, because some people might
>think that they can't walk up the stairs all by themselves?  Well guess
>what?  They can't!
>
>And, because NFBers are too dense to realize it, I'd better spell it out
>for
>you -- the blind can't see!  Get it?  We're blind!
>
>The only reverse discrimination going on here, is the NFB actively  working
>and campaigning AGAINST the blind!  So go spout your verbal diarrhea
>somewhere else, or just wait until your next national convention, where you
>can try to appear normal, among the other malcontents and misfits of life.
>
>-- George )who speaks for himself, and will take every opportunity to point
>out the insanity of the NFB, it's positions, and the people who support
>them.)
>
>
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