Todd,
do you eat organ meats as part of your meat intake? Loren Cordain's recent
presentation in Sydney he mentioned the high intake of organ meats and root
vegetables in passing. When (if) I review my notes I'll do a post on them.

Liver is very high in Vit A, iron and other goodies. Vitamin A has a lot of
effects on the skin. Relevant to acne and psoriasis (Vit A derivative used
to treat both). It does have some Vit D (not as much as salmon) which is
more relevant to psoriasis (Daivonex TM cream for psoriasis contains
calcipotriol, a vitamin D derivative)

Ben Balzer
"The ideal diet for any animal is that which it eats in the wild. Humans are
no exception."

"Ask a doctor or dietitian how to lose weight and you'll be told to eat
bread, corn,
soy, cereals etc.. Ask a farmer how to fatten an animal and you'll be told
to
feed it bread, corn, soy, cereals etc. There is a discrepancy that needs
explanation."

"Sigmund Freud is the thinking man's tooth fairy."


----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Moody <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 1999 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: [P-F] High meat consumption and fat loss


> On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Robert McGlohon wrote:
>
> > Todd,
> >
> > If I remember correctly, you've got a lean body mass of 180 lbs. and 18
> > percent body fat, which I interpret as you weigh 220 lbs. and would like
to
> > weigh 200 lbs.  I really don't think that most people would consider 20
> > pounds overweight as "fat."  Indeed, from my perspective, that's
downright
> > skinny :)  But to borrow from your post above, isn't 18 percent bodyfat
"an
> > adequate body composition for someone like yourself?"
>
> That's about right.  Since I've been restricting protein and
> adding veggies, I'm down to about 220.  I don't weigh myself
> regularly, but before starting my current experiment I did weigh
> in at 227, which was in fact close to 21% fat.  Indeed, I seem to
> have a "setpoint" at about 230 lbs.  I can get below that with
> effort, but ad libitum eating of *any* foods generally causes me
> to drift back to that weight.
>
> > If you want to get beyond adequate, it might take a little more effort.
> > Me, I'm shooting for adequate and will be jumping for joy when I reach
18
> > percent.
>
> I understand.  At my heaviest, I was 255 lbs., which was heavy
> enough but does not compare with the problem that many people
> have to deal with.  A case could be made that at this point I am
> dealing mainly with male midlife vanity.  Like Kevin Spacey in
> "American Beauty", I want to "look good naked" at least once
> before such a goal becomes ridiculous.
>
> There may be health benefits, too.
>
> Todd Moody
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