>I'd like to that follow up. Could you possibly give me a link to the list
>debate you mentioned? Is it a public list?

The list is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vegvsmeat. Fredrick is also on
the list (and I believe is the list owner/creator?)

Unfortunately, the gentleman I was debating has not posted for a long time.
I'm not sure if he's even reading the list anymore.