"Anna L. Abrante" wrote:
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>  Thank you for the very informative post Jean-Claude.  I whole-
>  heartedly agree that in a *natural* environment, parasites, and
>  microbes and other ugly buggies would be a healthy
>  addition to our existence, in their proper place.  Even the sacred
>  Wild Game can be hazardous to our health if it's infected with
>  parasites that we can't handle.  It is fool-hearty to think that
>  we can handle *any* bug, at *any* time. If this were true, we
>  would not even care about such things as salmanella and E. coli.

We live in a "sea" of bacteria. Based upon my own experience, I am not
having any problems with salmonella or E. coli. I eat aged eaw meat
and aged eaw eggs, pick food up off the floor and generally ignore all
of the things about germs that I learned as a child and in school. I
graduated from college with the idea that to be healthy, all I need do
was find a competent medical practioner and do what the "doctor" said.
Eventally I realized that there were some flaws in this. I have had
much more trouble with the practices of doctors and dentists. I have
also had some successes. One needs to be wise consumer.
>
>   This keeps me separate from what is *natural*.  And if I am this
>   way, I know there are others.  And just as I have had food
>   poisoning several times in my life, I know others have also.
>   And this is while always eating *cooked* meats.  If I had eaten
>   that food raw...how bad would I have caught it? Food
>   poisoning is more common than we think, and most of us get it
>  from *cooked* meats that were accidentally undercooked.
>
>  Just for the clarification of it, once again, and then I intend to
>   drop this thread because people insist on ignoring the things I am
>   saying, and interjecting what they WANT TO THINK I am saying.
>
>   My objection is to the idea of eating raw *ANY* meat, in *ANY*
>   amount, not raw meat eating in general. No amount of insulting,
>    or negative feedback, will get me to believe that such a broad
>   statement is safe to make.

This is a choice that you are free to make for yourself. Not everybody
here agrees with you, some do. Paleofood is a Hunter/Gather list. Some
H/G's eat all or most of their food raw but some cook a lot of their
food. Raw animal foods are valid topics of discussion here. So are
cooked foods. Enjoy whatever you eat. I eat raw animal foods and had
felt that I was pretty much alone in this. It is nice to find that
there are so many others here who do or are at least interested.

>   And to the others that don't feel this subject is important, I
>   apologize for taking your time..but I will bet you will remember
>   this thread the next time you get ill from food, and wonder if the
>   doctor really knew what he was talking about after all.

We all seem to get sick sometimes but attributing the correct cause is
sometimes difficult. A safe food should taste good to you. This works
best if it is in as close to natural state as possible.

>
>   Anna