"Anna L. Abrante" wrote: > > --part1_552bfe91.24e555a1_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anna, this is a mime message and violates the list rules as stated in the welcome message that you received when you subscribed. I do not want confrontational messages posted here. We discuss ideas and do not attack the poster. Ranting and raving does not help anybody. Specifics please. The source of your ideas and why you think they apply in the specific situation being discussed would be nice (and this applies to everyone). Our ideas may be correct or they may not. If we discuss them all may benefit. I am not here to censor ideas, only to provide a level playing field and to become informed myself. With regard to Dr Bernarr Zovluck, I have asked him to post some clarifications. He said that he will but as do all of us he has a life to live. He also has a business to run. He is a Doctor of Chiropractic but now retired. I have known him about six years. Whenever I have asked him about a medical term that I have found on the internet he has known what it was. He has an extensive library and uses it. He has been a Natural Hygiene Doctor for 40+ years and lives it successfully. He has a hard sell - trust your body and it will do the right thing. We all "know" that we can't do that. You may not agree with him but he has a right to be heard just like everyone else who subscribes to paleofood. Any further messages from you to paleofood will come to me for approval until I feel that you understand these rules and will follow them. Below is an excerpt from the welcome message. ------------------------------------ * CONTENT of messages posted to the list: - are to be supportive and informative, not confrontational - no "off topic" posting - do not post to topics which have a '!STOPPER - use private email for messages not relevant to all subscribers - no foul language - no cross posting the same message to two or more lists * YOUR EMAIL PROGRAM SETUP should be plain text so that your posts will be readable by all subscribers regardless of their computer and email program. - no text/enriched - no charset="x-user-defined" - no HTML - no attachments - no winmail.dat files - no multipart/mixed - no multipart/signed - no multipart/alternative - no multipart/related - no quoted printable MIME encoding - no Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - no Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 - no multi-part message in MIME format ------------------------------------ > > Thank you for the very informative post Jean-Claude. I whole- > heartedly agree that in a *natural* environment, parasites, and > microbes and other ugly buggies would be a healthy > addition to our existence, in their proper place. Even the sacred > Wild Game can be hazardous to our health if it's infected with > parasites that we can't handle. It is fool-hearty to think that > we can handle *any* bug, at *any* time. If this were true, we > would not even care about such things as salmanella and E. coli. We live in a "sea" of bacteria. Based upon my own experience, I am not having any problems with salmonella or E. coli. I eat aged eaw meat and aged eaw eggs, pick food up off the floor and generally ignore all of the things about germs that I learned as a child and in school. I graduated from college with the idea that to be healthy, all I need do was find a competent medical practioner and do what the "doctor" said. Eventally I realized that there were some flaws in this. I have had much more trouble with the practices of doctors and dentists. I have also had some successes. One needs to be wise consumer. > > This keeps me separate from what is *natural*. And if I am this > way, I know there are others. And just as I have had food > poisoning several times in my life, I know others have also. > And this is while always eating *cooked* meats. If I had eaten > that food raw...how bad would I have caught it? Food > poisoning is more common than we think, and most of us get it > from *cooked* meats that were accidentally undercooked. > > Just for the clarification of it, once again, and then I intend to > drop this thread because people insist on ignoring the things I am > saying, and interjecting what they WANT TO THINK I am saying. > > My objection is to the idea of eating raw *ANY* meat, in *ANY* > amount, not raw meat eating in general. No amount of insulting, > or negative feedback, will get me to believe that such a broad > statement is safe to make. This is a choice that you are free to make for yourself. Not everybody here agrees with you, some do. Paleofood is a Hunter/Gather list. Some H/G's eat all or most of their food raw but some cook a lot of their food. Raw animal foods are valid topics of discussion here. So are cooked foods. Enjoy whatever you eat. I eat raw animal foods and had felt that I was pretty much alone in this. It is nice to find that there are so many others here who do or are at least interested. > And to the others that don't feel this subject is important, I > apologize for taking your time..but I will bet you will remember > this thread the next time you get ill from food, and wonder if the > doctor really knew what he was talking about after all. We all seem to get sick sometimes but attributing the correct cause is sometimes difficult. A safe food should taste good to you. This works best if it is in as close to natural state as possible. > > Anna