GAMBIA-L Archives

The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List

GAMBIA-L@LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG

Options: Use Forum View

Use Monospaced Font
Show HTML Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:14:07 -0500
Content-Type:
multipart/alternative
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (17 kB) , text/html (24 kB)
Let it go Mams. Let it go. Suntou was only agreeing with your earlier  
postings that preach that there is really NO NEUTRAL HUMAN BEING. Relax men. You 
 get too edgy sometimes like Giussepe.
 
Haruna.
 
 
In a message dated 1/6/2011 1:02:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:

 
An enlarge mind Suntu my dear, is the mind that does not argue for  the 
sake of argument but reasoning which could bring  about understanding. Edi


 
____________________________________
 From: suntou touray  <[log in to unmask]>
To:  [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, 6 January, 2011  19:52:43
Subject: Re: opinion  (Daffeh on Musa Jeng's compromise)

Edi
Crickey, somebody is edgy. I thought with all your deep philosophy, your  
mind would enlarged by now. No difference of opinion  then, Rumie  wouldn't 
like that though. Wallow in your twarted reasoning mate, it is  all the same.
Suntou


On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Edie Sidibeh <[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) >  wrote:


 
Thanks for your response but until you are sensible here by reading  me 
loud and clear with your mind not your heart, I will remain to be  your 
sincerely Edi

 
____________________________________
 From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) >
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 
Sent: Wed, 5 January, 2011  1:51:07
Subject: Re:  opinion (Daffeh on Musa Jeng's compromise)



Edi, Haruna must have missed this posting like i do. However, you have  
been very philosophical as usual. The Rumi bit is interesting though. The  UDP 
will never agree with the so-call neutral person. That bogus proposition  is 
the most rediculous illicit demand. Who the heck is a neutral person, may  
be you are, or some former sleeping politician. 
Thanks
Suntou


On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Edie Sidibeh <[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) >  wrote:


 



My opinion on this issue as UDP is the biggest  party therefore every other 
party should follow them. This reality is the  same reason that UDP should 
be flexible towards smaller parties to join  them to a smooth victory. 
For-example; Yahya Jammeh wanted to be a king  and he is having the largest 
majority in house of parliament,   but without the support of the smaller house 
members, it will never  go smoothly if it was  constitutional. Therefore, UDP 
 should be ready to create a strategy of compromise and give smaller  
parties a good reason than saying I am bigger than you.   
This is the same old African style of politics  taken roots from the way 
many where brought-up as such; I can never have a  voice in front of my 
parents or someone elder than I am or richer than me  because they are bigger  or 
elder than me. To counter  these, Colonial masters or the West brought out 
human right laws to give  voice to voiceless by reasoning and compromising, 
which to my  understanding is aimed at Africans as we can see, they are the 
continent  taking the hardest blows. What I am trying to say here is the fact 
that,  it is the bigger party who should be able to mobilize strategies to  
including the smaller parties by leading them to a concrete and profound  
understanding towards unification to suit each and everyone. UDP can call  
every political or opposition leaders to put their agenda in front of them  
for scrutiny and way forwards. 
Even the unity that prevails in other countries  was not only the 
mightiness of the party but the strategies behind which  convince the smaller parties 
to join the bigger one. PDOIS is to my  opinion skeptical that if UDP is 
joined to win, they can at the end of the  day, clinch to power beyond the 
mandated term and this same probability is  what the UDP is skeptical of in 
selecting a neutral person and after two  years, different parties can disunite 
to campaign in replacing the agreed  caretaker. In every joint venture, in 
every corporation, the bigger  company or person no matter how rich or big, 
compromises in different ways  than bigness with the smaller person or 
companies.  MY  WAY OR THE HIGH WAY will never win any viable argument or  
disagreement. 
When we start to question the purpose of life at  some point in time, we 
tend to incline ourselves to a specific faith or  religion, to seek the Truth. 
Here lies the irony. When we seek the Truth  by imitating what we should 
and should not do, we moved ourselves further  away from understanding the 
nature of existence, from Truth, so to speak.  We imitate what great masters 
have shared instead of learning to  understand what they are trying to convey 
(read a person is more  beneficial than quoting him). So instead of moving 
closer to Truth, we are  in fact moving further from Truth.  I therefore, 
stood  in the world of Gambian politicians and found them all drunk, and I did  
not find any of them thirsty thus. They came into the world of politic  
empty, and they seeking to leave empty. But meanwhile they are drunk by  their 
own ambition different from that of the many population (UNITY).  When they 
could just shake off their wine, they will surely open their  eyes (after 
election). 

UDP is the bigger party and will remain the  bigger party for a long time, 
therefore it is still in their advantage if  a neutral person is selected 
for a limited time just to procure the  changes of government needed then 
before the end of the term, all parties  can campaign on their respective 
platform to win the confidence of the  people. With their divisions going towards 
the election time, president  Jammeh will surely win, and even if he doesn’t 
win who will notice the  fact that there is biasness or unfairness as the 
opposition is disunited  and one bigger party cannot fight it alone but if 
they are united, there  comes power because no one is thereby left behind. If 
there is no  greediness or selfishness as an hidden agenda, this should not 
be  complicated especially when the people’s benefits are on the stake.  
Bigness or power is nothing but oneness or togetherness is  everything. If 
bigness (power) is everything smaller people or companies  will be in a 
difficult situation. Therefore, taking advantage of others  using your power without 
compromise is against the laws of human right  what??  Or is it other wise 
oooops?  Edi 


Now  let  me share with you a parable by the wise Rumi, adapted by Osho, 
another  wise soul:

One day Jalaluddin Rumi took all his students, disciples  and devotees to a 
field. That was his way to teach them things of the  beyond, through the 
examples of the world. He was not a theoretician; he  was a very practical 
man. The disciples were thinking, "What could be the  message, going to that 
faraway field… and why can't he say it  here?"

But when they reached the field, they understood that they  were wrong and 
he was right. The farmer seemed to be almost an insane man.  He was digging 
a well in the field – and he had already dug eight  incomplete wells.

He would go a few feet and then he would find  that there was no water. 
Then he would start digging another well and the  same story was continued. He 
had destroyed the whole field and he had not  yet found water.

The master, Jalaluddin Rumi, told his disciples,  "Can you understand 
something? If this man had been total and had put his  whole energy into only one 
well, he would have reached to the deepest  sources of water long ago.

But the way he is going he will destroy  the whole field and he will never 
be able to make a single well. With so  much effort he is simply destroying 
his own land, and getting more and  more frustrated, disappointed: what kind 
of a desert has he purchased? It  is not a desert, but one has to go deep 
to find the sources of  water."

He turned to his disciples and asked them, "Are you going  to follow this 
insane farmer? Sometimes on one path, sometimes on another  path, sometimes 
listening to one, sometimes listening to another… you will  collect much 
knowledge, but all that knowledge is simply junk, because it  is not going to 
give you the enlightenment you were looking for. It is not  going to lead you 
to the waters of eternal  life."



 
____________________________________
 ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To  
unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web  interface 
at: _http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html_ 
(http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html)   
To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: 
_http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l_ 
(http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l)   To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: 
[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask])   ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤




¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤  To 
unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L  Web interface 
at: _http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html_ 
(http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html)   
To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: 
_http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l_ 
(http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l)   To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: 
[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask])   ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤




-- 
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the  creation of heavens and the earth, and the 
difference of your languages and  colours. Verily, in that are indeed signs for 
men of sound knowledge."  Qu'ran

_www.suntoumana.blogspot.com_ (http://www.suntoumana.blogspot.com/) 
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤  To 
unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L  Web interface 
at: _http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html_ 
(http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html)   
To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: 
_http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l_ (http://lists
erv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l)   To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: 
[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask])   ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤








¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To  
unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web  interface 
at: _http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html_ 
(http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html)   
To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: 
_http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l_ 
(http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l)   To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: 
[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask])   ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤






-- 
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the  creation of heavens and the earth, and the 
difference of your languages and  colours. Verily, in that are indeed signs for 
men of sound knowledge."  Qu'ran

_www.suntoumana.blogspot.com_ (http://www.suntoumana.blogspot.com/) 
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤  To 
unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web  interface 
at: _http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html_ 
(http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html)   
To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: 
_http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l_ 
(http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l)   To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: 
[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask])   ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤



¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤  To 
unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web  interface 
at: _http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html_ 
(http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html)   
To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: 
_http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l_ 
(http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l)   To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: 
[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask])   ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤


¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface
at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html

To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l
To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
[log in to unmask]
¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤

ATOM RSS1 RSS2