Uhh, chei.

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:18 AM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Haruna
> You too have failed in your mission. I categorically call for your
> mediation, but you took it lightly. Read the statement below: (Sam
> Sarr will say: “go to Halifa”.)
> Fabakary Ceesay: "From what you have said, we all know that formally
> you may not be the managing editor, but you are part of those people
> who formed this establishment. We know that Sam Sarr is the managing
> editor, but for the past two years we all know that you acted as the
> editor-in-chief. Most of the articles, you have the final say whether
> the article should be published or not. Sometimes we go to Sam Sarr
> and  ask that this article has not been published, and Sam Sarr will
> say: “go to Halifa”. So, all of us believe that you are the
> editor-in-chief, and you have the final say. "
>
> At this point, "Halifa Sallah came in and said: “Fabakary, don’t make
> remarks that are derogatory. What I am saying is Sam Sarr is your
> managing editor. What we do there has nothing to do with you people as
> employees."
>
> "Abubacarr Saidykahn: Faks, allow him to flow in.."
>
> Hence it seems all my assertions are correct to the fact that,
> Halifa's fingerprints are all over Foroyaa's editorials passing off as
> by the 'publisher'.
> In any case, the dialog is revealing and telling. 'Faks, allow him to
> flow in', flow in Halifa did.
>
> It was interesting to see Seedy Ceesay of Jamano trying to give
> alternative angle to the exchanges. This matters goes beyond political
> idolisation or holding someone in respect, it is a matter of young
> journalist wanting to be free of interferance and disturbance whilst
> carrying out their job accordingly.
> I hope Foroyaa elders see that as a foundamental condition of proper
> employee entitlement.
> Suntou
>
>
>
> On 1/31/12, Haruna <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > I have mentioned to somebody that the day you know how to write your
> reports
> > without legal implications, and do it with fairness, I have no reason to
> be
> > here, you will not see me here. So, your grievances may be legitimate
> > grievances. It is how you put it, and to whom that matters.
> > This time you perform an abrupt folly. Some of you are just like robots,
> > signing something without even questioning what you are signing; without
> > even verifying what you are signing is a fact. Essentially, this is the
> > situation. I believe that simply going and signing things without
> actually
> > interrogating every detail you shown, I will even wonder then your
> reports
> > whether they will not be checked again; because if a journalist writes
> > something, he is writing facts. If you are writing petitioning is facts,
> and
> > none of you can say that what I do here is making your work worse. The
> only
> > thing we are telling me what other people are interfering. What that has
> got
> > to do with me? Who am I to tell people who should come, and who shouldn’t
> > come here? In that sense, that is my concerns that I want to discuss with
> > you, that I have been gravely wrong…To put it in writing which can be
> > utilized maliciously. In fact, you are putting my reputation into danger,
> > because what you put on paper, anybody can send anywhere. The immediate
> > thing they will say: this is what we are saying; Halifa is in fact
> > influencing these journalists to write things in favor of PDOIS. So,
> these
> > are my concerns, and I felt I did not want to hold a meeting. I called
> some
> > of you to have a discussion, and you guys said it was signed by
> everybody,
> > and that you will prefer for us to handle generally whereby everybody
> will
> > be present. What I would have expected from anyone of you, if you have
> > anything to tell me, is you come and tell me what is in you and we settle
> > it. That is the good faith I thought that people are embodied in this
> > institution.
> > I want to make my last comment: I don’t want any of you sitting here, if
> I
> > were to stand for any office, to cast a vote for me. Anybody who does or
> > signs that document, and you go and cast a vote for me, you are a
> hypocrite.
> > Even if I die, any of you who signed that document, don’t come there and
> say
> > anything! Because you don’t believe what I believe, and therefore do your
> > journalistic work. Not that I have any grievance against you, you know
> that
> > people who consider me as their enemy, when they are in trouble, that is
> > when I stand to put myself that trouble. I will forever work, if I can do
> > anything that you can earn so that you can earn it. The reasons why I am
> > saying this, I want to prove to you that I am not interested in being
> > anybody’s leader. Whether National Assembly, whether President, I am just
> > serving a national duty. So, that is what I want to say.
> > Abubacarr Saidykhan: Thank you very much uncle Halifa.
> > REACTIONS TO HALIFA SALLAH’S STATEMENT
> > Fabakary Ceesay: I think everyone of us heard what you said.
> > At this juncture Momodou Sambou wanted to come in, and there was a
> unanimous
> > agreement that he (Momodou Sambou) should go out from the meeting. He was
> > told that he is interfering, and he was not in fact invited…Halifa Sallah
> > intervened and said to Sambou: “Based on what we want to achieve, just
> allow
> > us to achieve that”.
> > Fabakary Ceesay: From what you have said, we all know that formally you
> may
> > not be the managing editor, but you are part of those people who formed
> this
> > establishment. We know that Sam Sarr is the managing editor, but for the
> > past two years we all know that you acted as the editor-in-chief. Most of
> > the articles, you have the final say whether the article should be
> published
> > or not. Sometimes we go to Sam Sarr and  ask that this article has not
> been
> > published, and Sam Sarr will say: “go to Halifa”. So, all of us believe
> that
> > you are the editor-in-chief, and you have the final say.
> > At this point, Halifa Sallah came in and said: “Fabakary, don’t make
> remarks
> > that are derogatory. What I am saying is Sam Sarr is your managing
> editor.
> > What we do there has nothing to do with you people as employees.
> > Abubacarr Saidykahn: Faks, allow him to flow in..
> > Halifa Sallah: Just state the facts as you know them. I am saying that
> what
> > we do there, you don’t know, and none of you knows! It can be privilege
> > information, but what is important is Sam Sarr is your managing editor.
> If
> > you want accept in food faith that I am an editorial adviser, I am not
> the
> > one to see. If you are protesting is your managing editor that you should
> > see. The rest is between us, not between you people. If you have a
> > particular article, and you see that something is not published, that is
> > when you should protest. If you protest, and see that yes want that
> > published, it has to be published. That is your grievances with your
> > managing editor. People have a right to do that in this institution. I
> have
> > seen many people who came to uncle Sam Sarr and said  that my article has
> > not been published, let it come. Then it is published in the next
> instance.
> > That relation is there, is a privilege relation. It was not happening in
> all
> > media houses.
> > In some media houses, if you don’t bribe people, your article will not be
> > published. If you are a woman, if you don’t sleep with a person, , you
> don’t
> > get your article published. We know what is happening in many media
> houses.
> > If Sam Sarr kenw that you are that type of a person, anyway I am sure you
> > will not get any information from him. People are getting privilege
> > information because one believes that this is an open institution, and
> all
> > of us have the same interest. The day that Sam Sarr know this has become
> a
> > different institution (…), some even ready for destruction, I am sure Sam
> > Sarr will be a type of managing editor that you people think that he is
> > efficient. For me, I disagree with him tremendously, and if anybody is
> close
> > there, you will know what I am saying. That all these institutions are
> > managed in such a way, that is what we call laissez-faire.
> > Fabakary Ceesay: We are not saying that you are interfering with our
> work.
> > We did not say that. What we said is that political activities, during
> the
> > political campaign, we all know this place has been turned into a bureau
> of
> > the United Front. Most of their articles are in the office. We are all
> > politicians; most of us join this institution because of our political
> > interest, and our political affiliation; because of the objectives that
> we
> > believe, and the ideas of PDOIS. That is why we joined.
> > Halifa Sallah: Stop incriminating the journalists. What I am saying
> > separate, you said separation of powers. I have put a case before you,
> and I
> > can leave you to say what you want to say. The other that you are
> > mentioning, those are things you should mention among yourselves.
> > Fabakary Ceesay: What we said is that Halifa Sallah of PDOIS established
> the
> > institution.
> > Lamin Sanyang: Point of correction; it is not PDOIS, it is People’s
> Center.
> >  Fabakary Ceesay: We said both; People’s center and PDOIS.
> > Yaya Bajo came in and attempted to read the petition. Abubacarr Saidykahn
> > reacted, and said that there was an adjusted version of the petition, and
> > further urged Fabakary Ceesay to finish his reaction.
> > Fabakary Ceesay: What we are saying is that we are not discriminating
> > anybody coming to this place. We like that. People have been coming to
> this
> > institution before we come here. What we are saying is that activities of
> > political parties are all done here. People come here before they go to
> the
> > rallies. Sometimes you will walk into the office, and you will see all
> kinds
> > of people. As far as Foroyaa is concerned, we don’t have any problem with
> > that. We know that people come to you for counseling, and we also know
> that
> > Daily Observer is the mouthpiece of the government. This institution is
> more
> > of a political bureau than a newspaper bureau. APRC supporters do not go
> to
> > Daily Observer and converge there. This is our concern. You come here;
> you
> > don’t even have a seat. People entered into rooms until Ousman Sillah
> have
> > to write a note on a chair to ask people to stop removing chairs from the
> > office. If I am practicing my job, I will do it impartially, separated
> from
> > politics. If I am into politics, I will be into politics…I will not
> allow my
> > professional bureau to be turned into a political party. People working
> > under that institution raised that concern. I think you should have take
> it
> > in good faith as far as democracy is concerned. We all know that halifa
> > Sallah comes to Foroyaa, and thee establishment is formed by him. We
> cannot
> > distance Halifa Sallah from Foroyaa. Even though you are at People’s
> center,
> > you did edit our articles. We do not have a problem in that.
> > You see, Hamat Bah comes here; Henry Gomez comes here; all kinds of
> people
> > with different affiliations come here. We know that Foroyaa is a place
> where
> > people come and lodge their complains. We are not saying that Halifa
> Sallah
> > should leave Foroyaa completely. The sacrifice you have taken on behalf
> of
> > some of us, we know that. You specifically mentioned my name when Sam
> Sarr,
> > Saidykhan and others were arrested. I was in the court room when Sarata
> > Jabbie was granted bail, but she was taken away. I called Sarata’s family
> > and they told that until 6 am Sarata did not join them. So, if you said
> that
> > I did not do my investigation correctly, I will disagree. I don’t think
> any
> > of us have a grievance. There are opinions that are contained in the
> > document.
> > Halifa Sallah: Confine yourself!
> > Abubacarr Saidykhan: Article 15 of the petition that is what touches
> Halifa.
> > Fabakary Ceesay: You said you will take the recommendations as
> hostility. 99
> > per cent of us here are your own making. For how many years, I have been
> > listening to your lectures. I started reading Foroyaa in 1994 when I was
> in
> > form 3 in my High School. I started associating myself, and I am because
> of
> > Foroyaa. I learnt a lot from Foroyaa. You are a man of divergent views.
> > Foroyaa has been established to create a kind of society where people can
> > express themselves freely without fair or favour. We know other people
> from
> > other media houses the way they talk about their managing editors, the
> > system going on. We stand straight to defend Foroyaa at anywhere.
> > Abubacarr Saidykhan: We have 22 main articles on our petition here, and
> the
> > only that touches Halifa Sallah  is article 14 which one our main
> concern. I
> > was very interested that you are only concerned with this one. Just to
> > reiterate what Fabakaray Ceesay said, so many things have been raised
> before
> > us here. Out of my observation, you were peeved annoyed as to why we
> should
> > do these recommendations, and putting your name on a lose paper that
> might
> > fall into any hands as you said. Factually, I can assure that this paper
> has
> > not gone anywhere. In fact, it is only two copies that we have
> circulated so
> > far. The only signed copies that were distributed were given to you, and
> > uncle Sam Sarr. To be honest with you, and uncle Halifa there is nobody
> who
> > sat with us to connive or conspire something against you. In fact, the
> > meeting was held here openly; people were passing in; people were going
> out.
> > It was one of the concerns deem necessary that we should put it before
> the
> > management, that is why we put it there! I was thinking that you will
> tackle
> > this issue with understanding, and not to think that people are going
> into
> > another stage.
> > During the presidential elections, there were many accusations that were
> > running in and out here, and it is because of the coming of the people
> into
> > this office. That is why we feel that guiding this office to entirely be
> a
> > place of journalistic work will allow us or will save us to run away from
> > all those accusations. I have mentioned one of these accusations in one
> of
> > the meetings at the NADD bureau, and those were people in the party. You
> > know what I mean…
> > Nobody is saying that you are interfering with our journalistic work.
> > According to your own explanation, you’ve made proofs in some of
> citations
> > that in my case that is a journalistic case. In the case of Sanyang,
> that is
> > journalistic. In the case of Fabakary Ceesay, that is also journalistic.
> > That shows to me that you are getting into things that you don’t people
> to
> > see as the managing editor. So, we feel, even if you are not here, you
> can
> > still be doing that, but not for people to accuse us outside that
> Foroyaa is
> > mixing politics with journalism. We want to completely defend ourselves,
> and
> > put this institution to be respected by people so that they will it is
> > purely journalistic. It is only journalistic work that is going in out of
> > this place. This institution is yours; I have known that since before I
> > started working here. In fact, you told me in one of our discussions that
> > you own this institution. But from your attitude uncle Halifa if a new
> > person or a stranger comes here, he or she will not even know that you
> own
> > this paper. Because you have relegated yourself; you don’t show people
> that
> > you want property. I can testify. You taught me how to know myself uncle
> > Halifa. Section 25 of the Constitution, I learnt it from you, from your
> > editorials that give us power to petition the President. It is the same
> > thing that we are applying here. We are not petitioning the President.
> But
> > that section, that is in the Constitution, and you taught me to know,
> that
> > is what we are doing here. We were thinking that when put this before
> you,
> > you would have been laughing. In fact, being inspired by our activity
> that
> > even you are far away from here, you will believe that these people can
> do
> > something in my absence.
> > If you should say to us that even if you die we should not go there sand
> say
> > anything. Then that means, you have taken this issue to a level that we
> > never expected. I have never, ever expected that you will say this to
> us. I
> > was so electrified when you mentioned that.
> > You advised us that journalist must be independent, neutral and must not
> > take side. It is your responsibility to tell us, even if it is an
> > accusation, that what we are saying is not the case. To tell us that it
> is
> > frivolous conspiring, that was not what we have expected.The only area
> that
> > concerns you Uncle Halifa is on article 15 of this recommendation, and
> there
> > is nobody who can clarify this issue for us more than you. Uncle Sam
> cannot
> > elaborate on this issue and you have succinctly elucidated during your
> > statement that you are not interfering with our work. I think that is the
> > area that you should have drawn the cotton. And among us here no one is
> > interested in conspiring against you whether in public or private. But we
> > cannot also be use like tools by anybody as well.
> > Lamin Sanyang…This meeting is to engage the management about the issue
> which
> > I feel is very necessary. Like you always said that uncle Halifa is like
> a
> > conscience to the nation you have been engaging the president and other
> > people. So I feel if we as reporters of Foroyaa should make the same
> thing
> > why thinking that is hostility or frivolous. I don’t think that is it.
> This
> > is our opinion and we all have the right to our opinions. About the Tax
> > Commission, I was the one who was at the tax commission. Mr. Fafa Mbye
> was
> > at the commission and was asked about his tax payments for 2011, and was
> > further told by the state counsel that he has defaulted which he has
> > accepted. So that is why I put that headline that he has defaulted.
> > Pateh Beldeh… I want to start with as Uncle Halifa has said. Definitely
> we
> > are proud of Halifa and I think each and every one of us is proud of what
> > PDOIS generally not even foroyaa. Foroyaa is an organ of PDOIS. I think
> we
> > discuss this, we believe in this and most of us know this. We are not
> saying
> > anybody who is at PDOIS should not be attached to Foroyaa we are not
> saying
> > that. We are saying anything of political issues should be address at
> > people’s center. Once you are here you are putting on Foroyaa Uniform
> this
> > we are saying. Once going for political issues you should put on
> political
> > uniform and then we go to people’s center and address it there. As far
> as my
> > understanding is concern, I am a journalist and a politician. And I
> believe
> > that uncle Halifa should be proud of us. Halifa some of us as he said
> that
> > we were in the dustbin. He has help us to be part of the society then we
> > should be proud of that and then he should never repeat this because he
> has
> > done it for the sake of Allah and people have recognize his job. The
> whole
> > world respected Halifa and the whole world respected PDOIS no matter you
> are
> > from which party in this country. And no matters from which media house,
> if
> > you meet with a Foroyaa reporter you have to give regard to the person.
> No
> > matter the challenges we face, we respect the editorial board of Foroyaa
> but
> > it does not mean that we should not have the sake to complain to them
> and if
> > that is case then what we learn here is meaningless. Some of us can sit
> here
> > and look at halifa for the whole day without realizing it. I remember
> > sitting with him while fasting but I cannot even remember that I was
> fasting
> > just because of the love I have for him. We also come here and encounter
> > lots of difficulties but we are taking it in good faith.
> > Musa Barrow… We describe this as a sanctuary for liberty and a bastion of
> > freedom. So essentially the spirit behind this letter I don’t it meant to
> > offend anyone because as we all know we are all been here working. Is
> just a
> > suggestion that we are making because so often especially during the
> > campaigns some of my colleagues will complain that the office is washed
> with
> > so many people using the chairs. So it was out of that concern that this
> > recommendation was made. There is no element of hostility in this. Here
> we
> > are brothers and sisters and I do think being hostile to one another will
> > not in anyway help our course.
> > Yaya Bajo.. What I want to say with the reaction of Halifa to this
> > particular point. I think you should explain to us the answer of the
> first
> > question you pose to us in the beginning. But to tell people that you do
> not
> > want people to vote for you and stuffs like that has taken me by surprise
> > definitely speaking. Because I think you are a leader and you should
> accept
> > constructive criticism.
> > Mamadou Dem... I think my colleagues have said it all. We don know the
> > person Sam Sarr is answerable to because this is the third time we are
> > having such kind of a meeting and all that use to say is “Yes I will look
> > into it.” This is all he says and at the end of the day nothing will be
> > implemented. We do not who is answerable to.
> > Ania Gaye.. I wan to talk on the political issue. Most of the time you
> will
> > fine people sitting here and all they discuss is politics which is
> reducing
> > our character. We cannot do our journalistic work the way we should it.
> They
> > will all converge here talking about politics and nothing else and I feel
> > that is not going to secure us as journalist and some of them could be
> NIAs.
> > Lamin Njie/ Accountant…For me my concern is that you people misunderstood
> > uncle halifa. In any society there must be a chain work and
> commandments. If
> > you have any problem you go the editors first and to the managing editor
> and
> > from the managing editor to uncle halifa he should be the last person you
> > should see. If these people cannot solve your problem, among yourself you
> > select one person to go to them. For me I am very much disappointed.
> There
> > should be a chain of command and you don’t have to by past your boss. You
> > know writing is very dangerous, you don’t know that?  At this juncture
> the
> > strikers could not control laughing and Mr. Sallah intervenes by saying
> “You
> > guys are not serious he is talking and you are laughing.” The
> accountant..
> > There are lots of problems happening here without you people knowing it.
> > Sulayman Bah… We exhausted all options before calling this meeting by
> > writing to the management it self. You see, Uncle Sam would agree but at
> the
> > end of the day he will do nothing absolutely. i some time fine it
> difficult
> > to write my article and when I told uncle Sam he will show me
> disinterest.
> > When the petition was served the way you approach me uncle halifa I would
> > describe that as an attack because the whole thing is jointly written and
> > every reporter agree to it. You went to the point saying that you will
> not
> > tolerate none science. And you always talk about democracy and democracy
> is
> > all about divergent views and people must express their opinions and
> there
> > is no where were people will have the same opinions on matters.
> > Awa Bah… The difficulty we faced outside is that the moments you
> introduce
> > yourself as a Foroyaa reporter people see you as an opposition journalist
> > directly linked with politics. This is what is affecting us as
> journalist of
> > this paper. Some people fine it difficult to send their kids to come to
> > Fororyaa just because of the too much political ideology mixed with
> > journalism.  This is not done out of anger. That is what I have to say.
> > Sarjo Camara… Uncle Halifa, I think this move is a very progressive move
> to
> > me.
> > And if at all it was a reactionary move I think it would have not come in
> > this way. You are a roll model to all of us and the reason is to bring a
> > breach between our work and politics. This is the only point we feel you
> > should come in and clarify. We have been calling meetings in your absence
> > and is the same thing we discuss. You know people better than all of us
> and
> > you can even read the mines of others.  None of have the interest of
> living
> > this office for another place. I personally I know what foroyaa did for
> me
> > so I will not exchange foroyaa for any other institution. Please, take
> every
> > thing in good faith and give us your own opinion the way we should work
> > positively to achieve our aims and objectives of this organization.
> > Halifa Sallah.. Thank you very much.
> > Mamadou Sambou… Wanted to come in to say something but unfortunately was
> not
> > allowed by the strikers to utter a word and was further by Halifa to calm
> > down.
> > Reporters’ Recommendation
> > 1. General meeting for staff and other office sections on regular basis.
> > 2.  Inconsistency with food provision.
> > 3. Salary increment: increment for payment for articles. Provision of
> books,
> > pens, and other working materials.
> > 3. Provision of standard and workable computers.
> > 4. Refurbishion of the reporters’ place of work.
> > 5. Increment of salary status of freelance journalists according to the
> > Gambia Press Union’s recommendations.
> > 6. Late payment of salaries.
> > 8. Reaching a contract agreement before commencement of work.
> > 9. Handing of appointment letters including employment packages i.e.:
> > entitlement. Social security membership cards and payment of social
> security
> > dues.
> > 10. Adjustment of press cards. Eg the Gambia before institution name and
> > emboldening of the ‘Foroyaa’ name.
> > 11. Approval of fares and late coming of approving editors.
> > 12. Transport allowances to reporters.
> > 13. Quality of editing of the articles with presentable but captivating
> > captions
> > 14. We need sub-editors on courts, sports and other sectors: news editors
> > and proof-readers from our midst.
> > 15. We recommend that Halifa Sallah of people’s Center move to the NADD
> > office to create enough room for reporters. The besieging of the office
> > premises by politicians is of a great concern. We recommend that there
> be a
> > clear separation of politics from journalism.
> > 16. We have noticed that food is not provided since the appointed cook
> has
> > been bed-ridden by an ailment and we recommend that a substitute cook be
> > hired in case such circumstance occurs.
> > 17. We call for an immediate but speedy staffing of reporters who have
> > served for more than two years.
> > 18. We recommend that reporters be upgraded PROFESSIONALLY.
> > 19. Increment of Columns pay/ informing of staff over issues of delay
> > payment of salaries IF there is any such problem. We demand reporters be
> > giving reasonable explanation supposedly if the management is facing
> > financial hiccups.
> > 20. We are calling for a general meeting with the entire management by
> > FRIDAY 16th, after the Friday prayers.
> > 21. The printing of the newspapers ranging from pictures, should be given
> > due consideration.
> > 22. Since the paper is the oldest in the country, we recommend that it
> comes
> > on a daily basis.
> > IF THESE ABOVE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NOT GIVEN DUE AND URGENT
> CONSIDERATION BY
> > 15th JANUARY 2012, WE WILL EMBARK ON A SIT-DOWN STRIKE.
> > Sign:
> > Abubacarr Saidykhan……………………………………
> > Sulayman Bah……………………………..
> > Fabakary B. Ceesay………………………………………..
> > Musa Barrow
> > Pateh Baldeh……………………………………………….
> > Mamadou Dem…………………………………………………
> > Sarjo Camara ……………………………………………..
> > Lamin Sanyang …………………………………………
> > Annia Gaye……………………………………………
> > Amie Sanneh…………………………………..
> > Kebba Camara …………………………..
> > Awa B Bah ………………………………….
> > Abdoulie Dibba …………………………….
> > Madiba Singhateh ……………………….
> > Mariama Ceesay………………………
> > Lamin Fatty…………………………..
> > Yaya Bajo……………………………..
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