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Thank fankung. Will comment later. Suntou

On 5/8/11, Fankung Fankung Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Suntou, I agree with you that freedom radio should not be used to harass
> people. I am not aware of pa nderry calling for the British to investigate u
> or anyone else, however, if that is the case I think pa nderry is making a
> huge mistake. We are all young men trying to better ourselves. So such
> allegations or calls should not be our agenda. I therefore call on nderry
> desist from that. U brought up a good point about the sports visa thingy. I
> personally spoke to pa, advising him not to take the thing too much. So of
> are lucky to be where we are today, therefore we should not use our
> resources to block others. Just some personal thoughts. No offense to u or
> nderry
> On May 8, 2011 9:53 AM, "suntou touray" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Sun, May 8, 2011 at 2:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [>-<] Haruna, My Letter to Pa Nderry. I doubt he will publish
>> it
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>> Oceanic
>> That is the spirit. Although I disagree with all you said about Darboe, it
>> is in the interest of free speech you say so. To those who know Darboe, he
>> is the complete opposite of all that you stated. However, live is about
>> deferring views and I encourage you to bring it forward anytime.
>> Your friend Pa Nderry again went on to accuse me of serious statements. I
>> hope he can back himself up. I am not the type to be coward by bitter and
>> vengeful editor ike him, who never fail to use his paper against Gambians.
>> The VISA scam came to mind. Someone who gain his citizenship through
> suspect
>> means is now the hero of the United States Government. I am not scared
>> neither moved by your cowardly and hateful accusation Pa Nderry. I have
>> nothing to hide, this is why, whether you get personal or not is the same
> to
>> me.
>> You want the British government to investigate me? Don't you know, I am a
>> regular visitor to the House of Commons, don't you know, I have done all
>> sorts of checks to be able work in Millbank Towers, Hansons, The Adelphi,
>> Morgan Stanley etc...
>> Get your hateful priorities right young man. Grow up and stop using your
>> Radio and paper for vengeful purposes. I am ready for all your scum...The
>> only disappointment again is, you used Seedy Ceesay to have a so-called
>> interview on me. So sad to see you stooping so low. Shame on you. I never
>> knew, disagreeing with your psychopathic arrogance will put you on edge to
>> commit serious lies and libelous crimes.
>> Suntou
>>
>> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Oceanic Lad <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by Oceanic Lad <
>>> [log in to unmask]> ]
>>>
>>>
>>> Suntou,
>>> I dont and have never known you,but I respect you and sincerely
>>> believe that you the future of UDP post Darbo.
>>> However,I believe that Dabo is a spoiler and is doing more harm to the
>>> UDP than anyone else.He is hijacking this great and vibrant party to
>>> his interest.Trust me when I look behind Darbo;I see
>>> determined,fearless and dedicated militants and party bigwigs.
>>> When I stood at the corner of piccadilly junction in the fall of
>>> 2001,I was amazed to see the caravan of people accompanying Darbo back
>>> to Banjul that late night;Nobody would think Jammeh would win that
>>> group.Guess what,the next day rumor went around that soldiers and the
>>> green boys would kill all the opposition members if Jammeh loses.So,on
>>> election day without hearing from all his agents,Darbo called and
>>> conceded defeat and accepted to be the son of Jammeh on the Radio and
>>> television.This is my point and many others.You should stop helping
>>> Darbo to fight a lose battle.The UDP is larger than Darbo.Have a great
>>> sunday.
>>> On Sunday, May 8, 2011, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> > Oceanic
>>> > The substance of the argument in the letter is greater than Darboe and
>>> myself. I have responded and debated with you on UDP issues and Darboe as
>>> the party leader. You have every right as a Gambian to criticise Ousainou
>>> Darboe and to make whatever statements you deem fit. Such is your right,
>>> however, what is our right also is to respond to claims made against him
> and
>>> the party. And I believe you will agree that as the bedrock of plural
>>> democracy.
>>> >
>>> > I never appeared on the Freedom Radio to discuss about Alhagie Mustapha
>>> Faye. In fact, the program host tried several times to have us on the
> radio
>>> (Myself and SS Daffeh) however, we task our colleague Bamba Mass to
> engage
>>> him and his panel. Seedy Ceesay requested that, he wanted us to discus
>>> something, this was not specified and for that one time, I agreed. The
> panel
>>> which constitute (Abdoulie Jobe, Sarjo Bayang, James) were going to be in
>>> attendance. My main focal point is not a side issue, but the way to
> convince
>>> the opposition leaders to talk. I am not interested remotely in
> discussing
>>> anything on any radio if that is not the main subject, because chating
> about
>>> anything else is of less merit.
>>> >
>>> > I finished playing football at 7PM British time, as soon as I arrive
> home
>>> on Sunday afternoon, I was called to say the program will commence in
>>> 15minutes. I rushed to get ready.
>>> > It was when I join the conference call, I was told what will be
> discuss.
>>> I didn't even know who is on the program then, because it was later
>>> suggested, even without the panel Mr Ceesay will conduct a program. Five
>>> minutes into our pre-recorded discussion, I heard the Host Mr Seedy
> Ceesay
>>> and Mr Jobe trying to reach Mr Alhagie Faye. I was a bit taken aback,
>>> because i was not told he was going to be on the program. However, I
> obliged
>>> when Seedy said, "we will discuss his allegations against Ousainou". I am
> in
>>> all honesty not a keen listener of Freedom Radio. Therefore, I was
> prompted
>>> to the comments of Mr Faye.
>>> >
>>> > So, you see, we at the UDP U.K never requested to discuss anything with
>>> Alhagie Mustapha Faye. I wasn't even aware that, brother Demba Dem was on
>>> the program until, he was greeted by the host.
>>> >
>>> > However, regardless of all that, what Mr Pa Nderry did after our
> program
>>> was to do his own post interview with Alhagie Faye, making it as if we
>>> forced him to attend Mr Ceesay's Jamano show to get even with him. This
> is
>>> where his dishonesty and irrational attitude came to foe.
>>> >
>>> > He lied to his listeners by falsely making it out that, we don't want
> Mr
>>> Faye to speak his mind and that, we went to use his radio to stop others
>>> from speaking up. This is the gist of the matter. The vile that he poured
>>> out later is more than baffling.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Our program is regularly interrupted because Mr Faye clarify himself
> and
>>> said certain things that Mr Nderry was angry about.
>>> > Pa Nderry belittled Seedy Ceesay spectacularly. He showed his pathetic
>>> vengeful side to all. In fact, Pa Nderry's cry of fair and balance is
> what
>>> my letter is about.
>>> > Oceanic, you can rain down attack upon attack at Ousainou any time. If
> I
>>> or other UDP members feel oblige to respond we will. That is what I
> stated
>>> to him.
>>> > As for your credibility, I once made it clear to you that, when you put
> a
>>> name to your ID, I will engage you more constructively. Till then, stay
>>> bless.
>>> > Suntou
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Oceanic Lad <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by Oceanic Lad <
>>> [log in to unmask]> ]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Suntou,
>>> > Ousainou does not own the UDP and he should be very mindful of acting
>>> > like that.Then there would be no reason to oppose Jammeh.
>>> > I think the freedom media services is talking for me and the silent
>>> > majority of Gambians.Lawyer Darbo should retire now as he has passed
>>> > the test of time.He has been tested three times and woefully failed in
>>> > all of them.
>>> > I listened over and over to all this programs you and karamba etc are
>>> > complaining and I see no connections to the issues discussed and your
>>> > complains.only the truth were told,maybe a bitter truth to the UDP
>>> > fiefdom.
>>> > As usual even In elections,when you lose,you resort to tribalism and
>>> > character assassination.This FanaFana prince is blessed by God and no
>>> > human can do anything to him.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Friday, May 6, 2011, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> >> Thursday, 5 May 2011
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Pa Nderry Need to Learn Radio Manners
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Pa, it seems that, your understanding of democratic dispensation
> and
>>> free exchange of views is bias when it comes to UDP supporters. I hear
> you
>>> mention my name and claimed that, we don't want anyone to attack Ousainou
>>> Darboe. Attacking UDP Mandingo members is counterproductive.
>>> >>
>>> >> You are wrong and the assertions are unfounded. You have lived in
>>> America for 8 years and in that duration, you would have seen Senators,
>>> Congressmen and women, The President responding to claims against their
>>> personality. And by extension, his press secretary, key loyal supporters
> and
>>> pundits defending them as well questioning them slogging it out.
>>> >> That is the live blood of free exchange of views. If a man speaks
>>> against another, why should he fear a response?
>>> >>
>>> >> Mr Ousainou is a politician as well as Barrister. He cannot
> accommodate
>>> all the invitations of private Gambians. It is only for that spirit that,
>>> some us as UDP members respond to claims and allegations.
>>> >> The allegation of your Guest, Alhagie Faye was made in a public forum,
> a
>>> Radio broadcast. Similar sentiment was uttered against OJ, he is is U.K
> and
>>> was contacted instantly by Seedy Ceesay to rebuff the lies. Why didn't
> you
>>> do the same when Mr Faye made the insinuations?
>>> >> A serious broadcaster never take lightly statements of his guest, from
>>> all main stream American talk show host to the ones in Europe. If you
> want
>>> to emulate such personalities, then try to be balance and cordial with
> your
>>> views and guest.
>>> >> I have no problem even if you mention my name and make claims against
>>> me. I can defend myself instantly. I know you will not give me the air
> mile
>>> to correct the claims, however, I can use other means and avenue to
> remedy
>>> the situations.
>>> >>
>>> >> On the basis of Tribalism on our part, Pa are you serious at all about
>>> the crimes in the Gambia? If you feel that tribalism is when UDP
> supporters
>>> question claims on the media, then you need a serious reflection on the
>>> subject.
>>> >> Tribalist never want to be confronted. Your behaviour smells of such.
>>> Why can't you have ALhagie Mustapha and any UDP supporters debate at the
>>> same time. This is what Seedy Ceesay did. And your guest Mr Faye, refute
> his
>>> earlier statements himself.
>>> >> He said, he never said Darboe is a Tribalist and on the issue of
>>> Jammeh's bribes, he said that was all speculations. Yet when we came to
> talk
>>> as Gambians, you start screaming and making fuss over that. Who is the
>>> Tribalist now Pa Nderry?
>>> >> Your personal attack on Ousainou is fine, however, remember, we have
> the
>>> rights just like you to say you are using a bigoted mirror to analyse
>>> Ousainou.
>>> >> Why must Ousainou step aside to proof to you that, He is not a
> Tribalist
>>> or power hungry? Why should he hand over to Hamat Bah or some Wollof to
>>> proof to Pa Nderry that, he is not tribalist or the UDP is not Tribalist?
>>> >> DO you regularly listen to yourself?
>>> >> You should use sober responsible journalism to carry your message.
>>> Making false accusations against me or UDP supporters will not take you
>>> anywhere. Your free speech is recognised by us, however, do you recognise
>>> our free speech?
>>> >> I challenge you to have all sides of the Radio debates on together if
>>> you are seriously interested in Uniting Gambians. How can you be
> attacking
>>> Mandinka UDP members and claim that you are not a Tribalist? All we want
> is
>>> neutrality from all those claiming to be journalist. Be fair, invite
> Alhagie
>>> Mustapha day, night and evening, however, to be fair to the other sides,
>>> invite members from the sides he will talk about the opportunity to
> respond.
>>> That is what constructive free speech is all about.
>>> >> You cannot have people who will cowardly make statements, and pretend
>>> that, responding to them infringe on their rights. Why do you think it is
>>> you a Wollof demanding that, Ousainou a Mandinka give his place up for
>>> people all non-Mandinkas signify Pa Nderry? It expose the
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