Thank fankung. Will comment later. Suntou On 5/8/11, Fankung Fankung Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Suntou, I agree with you that freedom radio should not be used to harass > people. I am not aware of pa nderry calling for the British to investigate u > or anyone else, however, if that is the case I think pa nderry is making a > huge mistake. We are all young men trying to better ourselves. So such > allegations or calls should not be our agenda. I therefore call on nderry > desist from that. U brought up a good point about the sports visa thingy. I > personally spoke to pa, advising him not to take the thing too much. So of > are lucky to be where we are today, therefore we should not use our > resources to block others. Just some personal thoughts. No offense to u or > nderry > On May 8, 2011 9:53 AM, "suntou touray" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: Sun, May 8, 2011 at 2:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [>-<] Haruna, My Letter to Pa Nderry. I doubt he will publish >> it >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> >> Oceanic >> That is the spirit. Although I disagree with all you said about Darboe, it >> is in the interest of free speech you say so. To those who know Darboe, he >> is the complete opposite of all that you stated. However, live is about >> deferring views and I encourage you to bring it forward anytime. >> Your friend Pa Nderry again went on to accuse me of serious statements. I >> hope he can back himself up. I am not the type to be coward by bitter and >> vengeful editor ike him, who never fail to use his paper against Gambians. >> The VISA scam came to mind. Someone who gain his citizenship through > suspect >> means is now the hero of the United States Government. I am not scared >> neither moved by your cowardly and hateful accusation Pa Nderry. I have >> nothing to hide, this is why, whether you get personal or not is the same > to >> me. >> You want the British government to investigate me? Don't you know, I am a >> regular visitor to the House of Commons, don't you know, I have done all >> sorts of checks to be able work in Millbank Towers, Hansons, The Adelphi, >> Morgan Stanley etc... >> Get your hateful priorities right young man. Grow up and stop using your >> Radio and paper for vengeful purposes. I am ready for all your scum...The >> only disappointment again is, you used Seedy Ceesay to have a so-called >> interview on me. So sad to see you stooping so low. Shame on you. I never >> knew, disagreeing with your psychopathic arrogance will put you on edge to >> commit serious lies and libelous crimes. >> Suntou >> >> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Oceanic Lad <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by Oceanic Lad < >>> [log in to unmask]> ] >>> >>> >>> Suntou, >>> I dont and have never known you,but I respect you and sincerely >>> believe that you the future of UDP post Darbo. >>> However,I believe that Dabo is a spoiler and is doing more harm to the >>> UDP than anyone else.He is hijacking this great and vibrant party to >>> his interest.Trust me when I look behind Darbo;I see >>> determined,fearless and dedicated militants and party bigwigs. >>> When I stood at the corner of piccadilly junction in the fall of >>> 2001,I was amazed to see the caravan of people accompanying Darbo back >>> to Banjul that late night;Nobody would think Jammeh would win that >>> group.Guess what,the next day rumor went around that soldiers and the >>> green boys would kill all the opposition members if Jammeh loses.So,on >>> election day without hearing from all his agents,Darbo called and >>> conceded defeat and accepted to be the son of Jammeh on the Radio and >>> television.This is my point and many others.You should stop helping >>> Darbo to fight a lose battle.The UDP is larger than Darbo.Have a great >>> sunday. >>> On Sunday, May 8, 2011, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> > Oceanic >>> > The substance of the argument in the letter is greater than Darboe and >>> myself. I have responded and debated with you on UDP issues and Darboe as >>> the party leader. You have every right as a Gambian to criticise Ousainou >>> Darboe and to make whatever statements you deem fit. Such is your right, >>> however, what is our right also is to respond to claims made against him > and >>> the party. And I believe you will agree that as the bedrock of plural >>> democracy. >>> > >>> > I never appeared on the Freedom Radio to discuss about Alhagie Mustapha >>> Faye. In fact, the program host tried several times to have us on the > radio >>> (Myself and SS Daffeh) however, we task our colleague Bamba Mass to > engage >>> him and his panel. Seedy Ceesay requested that, he wanted us to discus >>> something, this was not specified and for that one time, I agreed. The > panel >>> which constitute (Abdoulie Jobe, Sarjo Bayang, James) were going to be in >>> attendance. My main focal point is not a side issue, but the way to > convince >>> the opposition leaders to talk. I am not interested remotely in > discussing >>> anything on any radio if that is not the main subject, because chating > about >>> anything else is of less merit. >>> > >>> > I finished playing football at 7PM British time, as soon as I arrive > home >>> on Sunday afternoon, I was called to say the program will commence in >>> 15minutes. I rushed to get ready. >>> > It was when I join the conference call, I was told what will be > discuss. >>> I didn't even know who is on the program then, because it was later >>> suggested, even without the panel Mr Ceesay will conduct a program. Five >>> minutes into our pre-recorded discussion, I heard the Host Mr Seedy > Ceesay >>> and Mr Jobe trying to reach Mr Alhagie Faye. I was a bit taken aback, >>> because i was not told he was going to be on the program. However, I > obliged >>> when Seedy said, "we will discuss his allegations against Ousainou". I am > in >>> all honesty not a keen listener of Freedom Radio. Therefore, I was > prompted >>> to the comments of Mr Faye. >>> > >>> > So, you see, we at the UDP U.K never requested to discuss anything with >>> Alhagie Mustapha Faye. I wasn't even aware that, brother Demba Dem was on >>> the program until, he was greeted by the host. >>> > >>> > However, regardless of all that, what Mr Pa Nderry did after our > program >>> was to do his own post interview with Alhagie Faye, making it as if we >>> forced him to attend Mr Ceesay's Jamano show to get even with him. This > is >>> where his dishonesty and irrational attitude came to foe. >>> > >>> > He lied to his listeners by falsely making it out that, we don't want > Mr >>> Faye to speak his mind and that, we went to use his radio to stop others >>> from speaking up. This is the gist of the matter. The vile that he poured >>> out later is more than baffling. >>> > >>> > >>> > Our program is regularly interrupted because Mr Faye clarify himself > and >>> said certain things that Mr Nderry was angry about. >>> > Pa Nderry belittled Seedy Ceesay spectacularly. He showed his pathetic >>> vengeful side to all. In fact, Pa Nderry's cry of fair and balance is > what >>> my letter is about. >>> > Oceanic, you can rain down attack upon attack at Ousainou any time. If > I >>> or other UDP members feel oblige to respond we will. That is what I > stated >>> to him. >>> > As for your credibility, I once made it clear to you that, when you put > a >>> name to your ID, I will engage you more constructively. Till then, stay >>> bless. >>> > Suntou >>> > >>> > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Oceanic Lad <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> > [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by Oceanic Lad < >>> [log in to unmask]> ] >>> > >>> > >>> > Suntou, >>> > Ousainou does not own the UDP and he should be very mindful of acting >>> > like that.Then there would be no reason to oppose Jammeh. >>> > I think the freedom media services is talking for me and the silent >>> > majority of Gambians.Lawyer Darbo should retire now as he has passed >>> > the test of time.He has been tested three times and woefully failed in >>> > all of them. >>> > I listened over and over to all this programs you and karamba etc are >>> > complaining and I see no connections to the issues discussed and your >>> > complains.only the truth were told,maybe a bitter truth to the UDP >>> > fiefdom. >>> > As usual even In elections,when you lose,you resort to tribalism and >>> > character assassination.This FanaFana prince is blessed by God and no >>> > human can do anything to him. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Friday, May 6, 2011, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >> Thursday, 5 May 2011 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Pa Nderry Need to Learn Radio Manners >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Hi Pa, it seems that, your understanding of democratic dispensation > and >>> free exchange of views is bias when it comes to UDP supporters. I hear > you >>> mention my name and claimed that, we don't want anyone to attack Ousainou >>> Darboe. Attacking UDP Mandingo members is counterproductive. >>> >> >>> >> You are wrong and the assertions are unfounded. You have lived in >>> America for 8 years and in that duration, you would have seen Senators, >>> Congressmen and women, The President responding to claims against their >>> personality. And by extension, his press secretary, key loyal supporters > and >>> pundits defending them as well questioning them slogging it out. >>> >> That is the live blood of free exchange of views. If a man speaks >>> against another, why should he fear a response? >>> >> >>> >> Mr Ousainou is a politician as well as Barrister. He cannot > accommodate >>> all the invitations of private Gambians. It is only for that spirit that, >>> some us as UDP members respond to claims and allegations. >>> >> The allegation of your Guest, Alhagie Faye was made in a public forum, > a >>> Radio broadcast. Similar sentiment was uttered against OJ, he is is U.K > and >>> was contacted instantly by Seedy Ceesay to rebuff the lies. Why didn't > you >>> do the same when Mr Faye made the insinuations? >>> >> A serious broadcaster never take lightly statements of his guest, from >>> all main stream American talk show host to the ones in Europe. If you > want >>> to emulate such personalities, then try to be balance and cordial with > your >>> views and guest. >>> >> I have no problem even if you mention my name and make claims against >>> me. I can defend myself instantly. I know you will not give me the air > mile >>> to correct the claims, however, I can use other means and avenue to > remedy >>> the situations. >>> >> >>> >> On the basis of Tribalism on our part, Pa are you serious at all about >>> the crimes in the Gambia? If you feel that tribalism is when UDP > supporters >>> question claims on the media, then you need a serious reflection on the >>> subject. >>> >> Tribalist never want to be confronted. Your behaviour smells of such. >>> Why can't you have ALhagie Mustapha and any UDP supporters debate at the >>> same time. This is what Seedy Ceesay did. And your guest Mr Faye, refute > his >>> earlier statements himself. >>> >> He said, he never said Darboe is a Tribalist and on the issue of >>> Jammeh's bribes, he said that was all speculations. Yet when we came to > talk >>> as Gambians, you start screaming and making fuss over that. Who is the >>> Tribalist now Pa Nderry? >>> >> Your personal attack on Ousainou is fine, however, remember, we have > the >>> rights just like you to say you are using a bigoted mirror to analyse >>> Ousainou. >>> >> Why must Ousainou step aside to proof to you that, He is not a > Tribalist >>> or power hungry? Why should he hand over to Hamat Bah or some Wollof to >>> proof to Pa Nderry that, he is not tribalist or the UDP is not Tribalist? >>> >> DO you regularly listen to yourself? >>> >> You should use sober responsible journalism to carry your message. >>> Making false accusations against me or UDP supporters will not take you >>> anywhere. Your free speech is recognised by us, however, do you recognise >>> our free speech? >>> >> I challenge you to have all sides of the Radio debates on together if >>> you are seriously interested in Uniting Gambians. How can you be > attacking >>> Mandinka UDP members and claim that you are not a Tribalist? All we want > is >>> neutrality from all those claiming to be journalist. Be fair, invite > Alhagie >>> Mustapha day, night and evening, however, to be fair to the other sides, >>> invite members from the sides he will talk about the opportunity to > respond. >>> That is what constructive free speech is all about. >>> >> You cannot have people who will cowardly make statements, and pretend >>> that, responding to them infringe on their rights. Why do you think it is >>> you a Wollof demanding that, Ousainou a Mandinka give his place up for >>> people all non-Mandinkas signify Pa Nderry? It expose the >>> > underlyin----------------------------gambiapost.NET------------------------------ >>> > SUBSCRIPTION: http://thegambiapostforum.com/membership >>> > We thank you for joining our forum. The purpose of The Gambia Post > Forum >>> is >>> > to provide a place for national discourse, a place where we can > exchange >>> ideas >>> > and share common interests. 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