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Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]>
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AbdouKarim

Ok!

Burama

On Friday, May 30, 2014, abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Burama
> Problemisation of poverty is socially constructed. It genesis is
> colonialism and the fundamental of modernisation theory which led to world
> bank post world war reconstruction etc. Modernisation ideology  as stated
> has sociological grounding from Emile Durkheim 18th century English
> enlightenment and later Walt Rostow stages of economic growth.  Dependency
> theory explained the notion of resource flow from a periphery of poor and
> underdevelopedto a core of wwealthy states enriching at the expense of the
> former.  Burama Walter Rodney becomes the authority in this historical
> analysis. Post development theory mote reflect western-Northern hegemony
> over the rest of the world. Post development theorists like Arturo Escobar
> have challenge the meaning of development and question development as a
> colonial discourse that depicted North as advanced and progressive and the
> South Africa Asia and South America as degenerate and primitive.  It is
> this notion that shape Harry Truman and the World Bank- the old imperialism
> and exploitation for exploitation. Burama as stated before economic and
> political drivers.  The only narrative is demographic indicators
> downplaying international economy and related issues.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 09:36:33 -0400
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: What's Our Make-up & How Was/Is It Managed
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> AbdouKarim
>
> Good contributions. I'm not familiar with those studies but good to
> know/learn.
>
> Looking forward to more from you.
>
> Regards
>
> Burama
>
> On Friday, May 30, 2014, abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Burama
> I am at work but will reply to you aggregate variables of mismanagement
> and poverty.  You are out firing your guns. Your variables dies not fit a
> statistical test because you neglected international political
> economy.  Your discourse is local and that is the blame game mismanagement.
> Burama we are resource  poor country we have wider issues of public
> administration beyond the mismanagement.  Issues  of public mismanagement
> is not only putting in place legalise instructions of public administration
> but enforcement of the rule.  Burama we are poor because international
> political economic factors and its drivers. Problematisation of poverty and
> dependence theory from walter Rodney and post development thoeorisation
> Escorbar should have help us how we look at our problems.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 07:32:20 -0400
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: What's Our Make-up & How Was/Is It Managed
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> AbdouKarim
>
> I didn't reference any publication. I did cited some sources of the
> numbers - not all of them.
>
> In fact my original question is not about population but given what the
> country had as resources including human capital - are we poor and/or
> mismanaged.
>
> You picked the angle that interest you or assumed what I/we are alluding
> to. I used we because Demba shared.
>
> Mind is more political factors (choices made by our governments) than
> anything else.
>
> Regardless increase in population on a finite resources means reduction
> either in quality or quantity or both. That's an establish fact - not an
> unproven theory or opinion.
>
> Burama
>
> On Friday, May 30, 2014, abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Burama
> I am not downplaying factor in resource utilisation. It is the publication
> that you reference that are giving us the only dominant narrative framing
> of population growth nexus natural resources causation. It becomes the only
> acceptable hypothesis. The resulting factor such as poverty international
> political economic power and power relation of resource use and control id
> always negated.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 07:05:46 -0400
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: What's Our Make-up & How Was/Is It Managed
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> AbdouKarim
>
> You may have a point and am not disputing.
>
> Regardless increasing demand of any resources means scarcity. Population
> is one of the variables that with any increase will reduce either quality
> or quantity of a said resource. I have not seen a study that puts every
> blame of land degradation on population but surely a factor.
>
> Yes we are agrarian. Isn't that people in need of land for food production
> - hence more/faster depletion. As humans we can change from agrarian and/or
> improve on techniques. Isn't that management?
>
> International trade and debt, especially debt servicing for The Gambia is
> a problem. Again proper and inform management should ameliorate some of
> those problems. On the flip side trade is not only good but important.
>
> Fair trade is more a political phenomenon than it's economic. In economics
> trade is anchored on comparative advantage theorem.
>
> Unless you totally exclude and/or downplay the role of population
> increase we are in agreement.
>
> Regards
>
> Burama
>
> On Friday, May 30, 2014, abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Burama
> That is neomalthusian narrative. Population growth is always use as the
> cause and the results factor is negated. The results to resource
> degradation is beyond demographi
>
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