Daaffo!,
You did not have to say that, as it is implied
from your comments, that die hard supporters like you manipulated Ousainou
as he seems to be a very reasonable elder statesman. You see this retired
lieutenant was military police commander for years and a great
investigator and disciplinarian. Since you are ashamed of outlining your
party die hard supporters contentions here, we assume the
obvious.
Kejau
> Kejau , where did I say
ousainou was hindered by party-died? I made it
> crystal clear that the issue was never between Ousainou and anybody
or
> party but between the UDP and the other parties and Ousainou was only
a
> representative of the UDP and negotiating unbehalf of UDP. This
was
> crystal
> clear to all who witnessed or followed the talks.
>
> I will not respond to your so-called outline of issues for they
merely
> expose your ignorance about the issues that were the bone of
contentions
> before and during the coalition talks. Perhaps that is only because
you
> are
> such a gullible and unsophisicated ex. army Lt. You certainly have
> ridiculed yourself through your outlines for these issues have
been
> extensively debated in almost every credible Gambian medium and
thus,
> providing no room for distortion or misrepresentation.
>
> I
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 8 November 2012, Kejau Touray
<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>> Daffeh,
>>
>> How do you put a record straight by calling elder names instead
of
> putting forward reasoning instead of mere statements? I may be an
> 'insulate
> nutcase', but am not insolent like you. You did not raise any issue
that
> need explanation, and that was my point. What Sidia was said was
his
> opinion and I made that clear, but you went on to talk about the
obvious
> such as Ousainou different from the party and that party making
overtures
> without naming any such overtures.
>>
>> You are not only insolent but also a big hypocrite, as calling
Col.
> Chongan Komutan is giving him his due. Komutan means commander in
Turkish,
> you fool!
>>
>> Let us talk about issues as you started now.
>>
>> 1. UDP did not follow the wish of the people was what you said
not from
> me, as you implied when you said Ousainou was hindered by party die
hards
> like yourself, instead of the people of The Gambia.
>>
>> 2. If UDP had no agenda, what is wrong with following the
agenda's of
> PDOIS or anyone else for that matter.
>>
>> 3. You tell us what your party put forward, apart from putting
Darboe
> forward without any consultation of conference that PDOIS did need
to
> consider. We cannot be expected to be clairvoyant and know any of
your
> party's position to even consider them. Do not be lazy, as Joe is
known to
> quip. so tell us what your party wanted that needed to be
considered.
>>
>> 4. PDOIS' s position was to go to conference instead of crowning
Darboe,
> what was UDP'S stance again, apart from crowning Darboe?
>>
>> 5. The insisting of PDOIS for Darboe to face the convention is
>> democracy
> instead of UDP insisting on the crowning of Darboe without an
convention
> has always been the point of contention.
>>
>> Lt. K Touray (Rtd)!
>>
>>
>>
>>> Kejau,
>>>
>>> Why would anyone want to debate with you after having proved
yourself
>>> as
>>> an
>>> insulate nutcase. No wonder even a mere 'make the record
straight'
>>> exercise, which is exactly what I have done, is considered by
you as an
>>> insult.
>>>
>>> I know you have no alternative explanation on the issue and
hence your
>>> sentimental response, which is understandable, but I expect
you to be
>>> mentally mature enough to be able to distinguish 'substance
talking'
>>> from
>>> a
>>> glib speech which is exactly what Sidia offered you in
Oslo.
>>>
>>> By the way,was it not you who derogatorily referred to Ebrima
Chogan as
>>> ''Komuntang'' and you still have the guts to talk about
insults???
>>>
>>> I further ask; if the UDP have not considered the wishes of
the people
>>> as
>>> you have impliedly suggested;
>>>
>>> 1. Why was it that they initiated the coalition talks in the
first
>>> place
>>> and invested resources, time, intellect and emotion in trying
to
> actualise
>>> the wishes of the people?
>>>
>>> 2. Why would the UDP present a proposal that was largely
based on
>>> Halifa's
>>> Agenda 2011, a document the PDOIS party and Sidia endorsed,
if it was
>>> not
>>> for their genuine desire to engender a compromised solution
to the
>>> stalemate and ultimately actualised the wishes of the
people??
>>>
>>> 3. Are you able to tell point out any single element of the
UDP's
> position
>>> that Sidia said or would say PDOIS had conceded or was
willing to
>>> even consider?
>>>
>>> 4. Do you find it reasonable that PDOIS insist on a coalition
that was
>>> entirely based on their take on the issue with utter
disregard and
>>> contempt
>>> for the views and positions of the UDP? If you do, then I
have got a
>>> bridge to sell you in Wuli Nyakoi.
>>>
>>> 5. Do you consider PDOIS's reluctance to concede any element
of the UDP
>>> positions congenial to the prospect of a coalition?
>>>
>>> 6. If Sidia can say Darboe would have won their proposed
convention,
>>> what
>>> then was their point on insisting on a convention even if
that means no
>>> coalition? Is that what you will call pragmatism because in
my book,
>>> that
>>> is dogmatism?
>>>
>>> 7. Even if Darboe participated and won the convention, how
would that
> lead
>>> to a coalition when PDOIS inherently opposed to any idea of a
UDP
>>> party-led
>>> alliance in line with international standards and the spirit
of the
>>> constitution while the UDP on the other hand, is opposed to
the idea of
> an
>>> independent candidate for legal reason?
>>>
>>> 8. Why was Sidia keen to scapegoat Alhagi Ousainou when in
fact, the
> issue
>>> was not about him but two opposing party positions?? Is it
not because
>>> he
>>> knew gullible people like you will buy anything from the
PDOIS market
> even
>>> if they appear perverse on the fact and insulting to the
intelligence
>>> of
>>> the sundry?
>>>
>>> The vision of the G6 is limited in scope and therefore not
necessarily
>>> something that would lead us to the dreamland. There is a lot
more to
>>> do
>>> and bridges to build before we can finally achieve unity in
the
>>> opposition. This is the truth and whoever tells you the
contrary is not
>>> being straight with you.
>>>
>>> About the proposed legal suit, you tell me, when did PDOIS
became
>>> interested in confronting the regime in court on
constitutional or
>>> electoral issues? As far as records are concern, all the
constitutional
>>> and
>>> electoral suits that went before our courts since the birth
of the
>>> second
>>> republic as either in the name of UDP, NRP or a combination
of both.
> PDOIS
>>> have always stayed away to the delight of the APRC regime and
Halifa.
> That
>>> is the truth.
>>>
>>> As UDP supporters, we know what is expected of us and we
certainly
>>> won't
>>> take any lectures from a gullible ex-lieutenant Kejau Touray.
The only
>>> reason PDOIS remains adamant in the perpetuation of their
>>> unreasonable intransigence is the kind of comfort people like
you are
>>> giving to such an uncompromising attitude and this has been
and still
>>> remains the biggest threat to any prospect of opposition
unity in The
>>> Gambia.
>>>
>>> Have a good day, pal.
>>>
>>> Daffeh
>>>
>>> On 8 November 2012 08:26, Kejau Touray
<[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Daffeh,
>>>>
>>>> Is it useful debating with you since you provide no
reasons but just
>>>> insults? First of all, indeed UDP as a party should
consider the
>>>> wishes
>>>> of
>>>> the people instead of few big
>
>
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