Kejau,
I feel you. One thing is apparent though; Some folk are really not
interested uniting/organizing/coalition/alliance their erstwhile feignings
notwithstanding. I think we should do our work despite them and not expect them to
be in the same struggle. This idea will become more appreciable as time
goes by.
Haruna. Its always the same lot. All this because a party is defending
itself against someone who claims belonging to the party. If I were Falai, I
will resign from the UDP if he is still a member. And whoever else wishes to
follow him out should honestly do so. There are plenty of parties to join
or form one's own. One thing we must realize is that we don't really have to
belong to any particular party to do something about Yahya. You can be in
APRC and if you believe Yahya is a criminal, you can do something about him
or you may change your mind tomorrow and say Yahya is really not that bad.
After you join the APRC. This party thing is much too over-hyped. I choose
to assist all the parties except APRC because I feel the opposition
affords the most hope for Gambia's salvation and plus I have a special affinity
for Lawyer Ousainou Darbo's sobriety and circumspect. Hon. Sidia is my uncle
too, in-fact, in familial terms, I am closer to Hon. Sidia than Hon.
Ousainou. Given a choice between PDOIS and any of UDP, NRP, GPDP, GMC, or PPP,
I'd choose any of the others but not PDOIS. I simply believe PDOIS is a
party with stale and oppressive ideas and after Yahya, I don't think any
Gambian can consider a PDOIS-led government. They'd have to do a coup d'etat. And
even then they wouldn't last long. PDOIS needs a total overhaul. And I am
confident UDP, NRP, PDOIS, GMC, or GPDP will not tolerate idiots within
their ranks. That's the w9y. They are finding it hard to have a suitable home.
It is very rare you hear about migrations between the opposition parties.
It is mainly from APRC to one of the opposition or from one of the
opposition to APRC or political hiatus. That ought to tell us something. We must
never cuddle or massage the egos of moles in any opposition party. On the
other hand, we do not have to belong to any opposition to fight what we
genuinely consider a criminal. No matter what party he/she is in, a criminal will
always be a criminal. Until apprehended and rehabilitated.
I know this is a long goodbye Kejau. I'm done now. I will sign off again.
Haruna. Mams and Caesar, I don't wanna hear it.
In a message dated 1/27/2011 2:24:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Come on guys! You all seem to be missing the points! One of them being how
do we transcend our apparently inherent differences and forge alliances.
What are we all missing guys, why can we never unite and organise as a
struggle? How comes we are always fighting amongst ourselves everyday? How can
we forget the giant of tasks before us in trying to restore democracy and
rule of law in our country?
Kejau :-(
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:12:06 +0000
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
is your role? Falaye in mind
To: [log in to unmask]
Come on Suntou! You are a tribal and religious bigot and you have good
company with you and please save me from your hypocrisy of being sorry. Sorry
my foot! You must elaborate on what you know about Mr. Sambou for your
readership. If he were alive, I will leave him to fend for himself.
However, since he is not here to defend himself, I will speak for him, leaving
nothing as sacred. Also, please do not make a boldface lie here. You do not
know Mr. Sambou, but the lie you were fed that is why you could not
elaborate. I am also going beyond the contours of your lie to address the tribal
nature of your pac. This is why I sometimes seriously ponder whether if
per chance Yaya was a Mandingo, whether your gang will have an issue with
him, murders and all.
Suntou, you folks are sick. Everything is about tribe. Your Gang fought
the STGDP for years and labeled it biased against the UDP/Ousainou, called
Kebba and Musa tribalists against Mandingoes, but no sooner did we have
Banka as the Chairman did you folks have a Jambadong all over this place
congratulating the STGDP. What you did not realize is you never bothered to know
who Banka is and what he stands for. You have since realized that Banka's
vision for Gambia and our struggle is not in league with your tribal
sickness. It is also interesting that with Hamat's separation, you are now
embarked on cleaning house and ready to cannibalize on non-Mandingoes within
the diaspora UDP chapters. Folks are aware what what went on within the UDP
with Sahou Mballow. I bring these anecdotes up to show folks you all's
track record. At a time when Gambians are supposed to address our murderer in
Yaya, you jackasses are here waging a war hinged on sickness. All you are
demonstrating to Gambians is that you folks are not fit to lead any. You
are doing a darn good job convincing Gambians that you have nothing to
offer them. The sad thing is your sickness is so deep that you do not bother
to be subtle about it. What do we see here daily, the same crop to prowl
here, rabid and sick to spread your tribal disease.
I feel the pain of many Mandingoes that do not share your neurosis but are
put in a funny position because of an accident in the tribe they happen
share with you. To those folks, I am here to assure you that no Gambian with
an ounce of sense will devalue your contributions in our struggle and we
know where your heart lies. You are also not responsible for the sickness
demonstrated by this bunch no more than I am responsible for the murderer in
Yaya. The only way Gambians can get rid of our murderer is to transcend
tribalism. To Yaya, every Gambian is just an opportunity or victim for him
to stay on and he will cannibalize on the Jola, just as he will do the
Mandingo, Wolof, Fula, Ndjago, Serer, Narr, etc. to achieve his end. Suntou,
you folks are a disgrace to the challenges of our people.
Joe
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:49:36 +0000
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
is your role? Falaye in mind
To: [log in to unmask]
Mr Sambou
Sorry if my statement that, his 'Christian' name bothered you. In England
such is use to identify people's first name. The nurse at Dentist clinic
nurse never fail to ask me my Christian name Joe. But then, Joe is glad to
shift that as some religious issue.
Go on, Mr Sambou formerly of PDOIS, did you know him? Didn't it occur to
you that, I may have forgotten his first name? I am not bothered about your
agitations Joe. If you are the vanguard for the Sambou's that is ok. A
couple of people have emailed me his first name but to enjoy your rant, I will
continue to leave it out.
The late Mr Sambou was a happy APRC member. May his soul rest in peace.
Suntou
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
Suntou, thanks for your response and I am glad you are man enough to add
more details. It is interesting that you provided a first name for Darbo
and Jones, but chose to use Mr. for Sambou. Please, stop the cover and
exclude your Darbo from this discussion. I know you lot better. Also, your
world view is wrapped around religious and tribal demagoguery, thus, your
hallucination will drive you to see "My Christianity". Suntou, I do not just
hear a crackle and conclude the sky is falling. Thus, I sought your
clarification.
Now, the Mr. Sambou you referenced is my elder brother and not my uncle
(so much for knowing a person), and I know you do not know his name because
you actually do not know the man outside what you were fed. His name is
Louis Sambou, but commonly called Pa Sambou. Now, please do not let any stone
unturned, for you must tell your readership what you know about "Mr.
Sambou", no matter how ugly, in the interest of truth in discussion. Anything
less will be fraudulent on your part, especially as you float around here,
beard and all, as the most holy and Allah loving. The good thing here is
there are countless here that know the same person you are trying to character
assassinate and they can vouch for you.
Yes, he was not only with PDOIS, but he was with the Voice of the Future
and taught hundreds of adults to read and write at night, free of charge
dating back to the early 70s. I will also help you with a time line as you
gather your dirt. Mr. Sambou died in March 1999 and Yaya came to power on
July 22, 1994.
"This Mr Sambou commented of Halifa dietery habits, his love of yogurt was
name among brother Sallah delicacy. Isn't that enough clues Uncle Joe. May
his soul rest in peace. Ameen."
Suntou, if you want to say something to Halifa, just say it. You do not
have to manufacture lies here. How can you in good conscience stand here
and tell this lie just because you can? What do you know about Mr. Sambou's
separation from PDOIS and how do you equate it with Rambo's separation from
the UDP? While at it , please educate your readership on the nature of
Mr. Sambou's separation from PDOIS. That would enhance your credibility as
you tell your story.
Suntou, you have an internal demon that is killing you. Just to provide
cover for Rambo's defection, you will throw around all kinds of filth. Just
look at you folks. For anyone that doubted your tribal tendencies, they
will have no recourse but to acknowledge your tribal neurosis. I figured
out you folks a long time ago, thus, I alerted Gambians to your ways and now
you are at full trottle. Waedy, Gis Mba Dega Borkucha! The moment Musa
Jeng said what you all wanted to hear, he is your darling, but at a flit you
will not spare the kitchen sink to cannibalize him at the slightest hint he
say a word you do not like about Darbo. This is sickness folks. I
careless who joins Yaya for we have passed the conversation regarding a coalition
and Gambians are looking ahead of 2011. The more you folks fight against
any on a tribal basis, the more you show your cancer. You are like a pac of
rabid dogs. How come everyone that responds with you all happen to be
Mandingo? Who is among the UDP UK or USA that is vocal among the UDP that is
non-Mandingo? Not a sole. How likely is it that as tribally diverse as
Gambian society is, that all of you that come to howl here about the UDP are
all Mandingoes? You all want a discussion, we will have a discussion. It
appears that you folks are loosing your heads and the group neurosis you
have displayed and continue to display gave Gambians pause as to who they are
dealing with. I will ignore you bunch until you throw your filth my way.
So yes, we are going to have a discussion and we will not leave stone
unturned.
Joe
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:11:35 +0000
From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
is your role? Falaye in mind
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Yanks
This is hilarious. I never thought the omission one Sambou clan will cause
Uncle Joe to jack his chin for the Christian name, is Joe the watchdog of
every Sambou family name.
I may have exaggerated Joe knowledge of Gambian politics, if not he of all
people should have known which Mr Sambou cross carpet to APRC from PDOIS
with David Jones who once contested as a candidate for Banjul. Wasn't that
Mr Sambou among the early founding members of PDOIS? I want Joe to ably
connect the dots. Sorry for the agony, no one brought your queries to my
attention it seems.
This Mr Sambou commented of Halifa dietery habits, his love of yogurt was
name among brother Sallah delicacy. Isn't that enough clues Uncle Joe. May
his soul rest in peace. Ameen.
Suntou
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Yanks Darboe <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
Joe
Old pa why are you asking that question when you bloody well know the
answer to that question.
Its one of your cousins, don't let me spell his name for
you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nemesis Yanks
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:04:17 -0600
From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Subject: FW: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
is your role? Falaye in mind
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Suntou, this is a second attempt to seek clarification as to the Mr.
Sambou you referenced below.
Thanks
Joe
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From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Subject: RE: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
is your role? Falaye in mind
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:47:59 -0600
Suntou, someone alerted me to your mail regarding your reference to a Mr.
Sambou as a bad apple. Since my last name is Sambou, I was just wondering
the Mr. Sambou you are referring to (his first name).
"Sulayman Darboe, Mr Sambou and some others are perfect examples of bad
apples who can't stand the heat."
Thanks
Joe
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:55:14 +0000
From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
is your role? Falaye in mind
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Badou
A week is a long time in politics and talking about unity, Falaye is aware
of things happening under his nose, hence zip it on that. We have enough
weekly Tele conference with every serious UDP member in Diaspora every
Saturday for two to three hours.
Whoever have a serious issue to discuss, the platform is there adequately.
However, you don't have to claim you are PDOIS or APRC. I understand some
can sit tightly on the fence and wish for a level playing field devoid of
harassment, human rights abuses, equal access to TV, Radio and a free press
etc without being part of any political group. This is possible and I know
brothers who are working toward such goal. I have attended demos with some
of this folks.
However, you cannot curtail any discussion here or any where in the cyber
space. Referring to Rambo's conduct can include all those who did what he
just copy. His predecessors are many and there will be others. It is the
reality of dictatorship.
This is prevalent in Sudan, Algeria, Syria, The South Americas and Africa.
Even in Europe people cross carpet, however, for those, they do it with
good intentions, not knowingly join a criminal organisation that at best
operate a shadow government.
Sulayman Darboe, Mr Sambou and some others are perfect examples of bad
apples who can't stand the heat. Falaye on the hand is destructive and
countering the efforts of his so-call party. If he is not satisfy with the party's
choice of candidate, doesn't he know what he should have done? Genuine
Democrat who oppose Obama during the primaries rally round him after his
selection. You try to work out things inside your camp. Do I think that, you
will find any problem with his double standard misninforation, I don't think
so.
There is no need to create a false myriad. Falaye should air his
grievances directly to the UDP executives, UDP able youth leaders, MPs, Yayai
Compins, etc. He may influence things through that.
I careless what you have to say about the UDP. I have no problem with the
criticism of those who are not calling themselves UDP members. But you
don't build a house and slowly start setting fire to it. I have listened to
Falaye on a couple of occasion, sometimes I thought Pa doesn't have any other
independent voice to speak with about the UDP instead of the duo who are
seriously disconnected with current affairs of the party.
No wonder Sedia and Halifa said, we "youths in Diaspora know nothing about
the situations on the ground." Their assertions that, we criticise them
without lending any form of support is true. Obama raises his campaign funds
from ordinary people and donors. Who is donating to counter the Yahya
Jammeh free bank? How many Gambians will decline a D50,000 when offered on
political grounds? Come on, who will? Let alone when the amount is in hundreds
of thousand.
Now, we in the opposition don't have any such money, but we can at least
fuel our vehicles, visit supporters country wide, attend their ceremonies,
talk to them. This is the slow process that can counter Yahya. Gambians are
not militant in a serious way. Calling for mass demonstration is a far
fetch idea. Let us speak with the opposition leaders, encourage them to visit
voters, donate to PDOIS, UDP, NRP. The easy blame game is only absolving us
of involvement, yet when folks who spend their own resources, sacrifice it
all for change commence to be corrupt we renew another line of attack.
Gambians can't have their cake and eat. Ghana, Nigeria have companies now
that can do the Europe-America political donations, we don't. South African
has businesses that donate heavily to political parties, we don't. The few
individual donations are not enough to counter Jammeh's long hands. We all
see him shamelessly handing raw cash on TV. Is this kind of politics new?
Hell no. PPP big wigs use to do it, Jammeh took it to a higher level, with
maximum exposure. Then it use to be bags of rice, few hundreds.
Let us continue blaming the opposition, it will bring miracles. Yes, they
need to be reminded of the urgency we are all facing. But what is your part
in it. You don't even have to back any opposition by name, just scramble
for votes for them in your own way. The military are enjoying for now. Can
we depend on them to rid us of Yahya, it is a wait and see. How of them do
we have with us in Diaspora and how many have we ever heard making plans to
do the revolution for us? God is our saving grace, He is always with us,
and him Him let us depend and do our quorter. Thanks
Suntou
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Banura Samba <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:
Suntou, I think you need some background information before jumping into
conclusion that I am a PDOIS supporter. I have no idea what you talking
about. I think you are talking out of paranoia and confirmation bias.Talking
about Sulayman Darboe's defection to APRC is not the issue here, we talking
about Rambo. I think we should be looking for solutions to avoid future
defections of our party militants than picking bones with other people.
I think you need to do your home work very well before jumping into
slippery conclusions who belongs to UDP or PDOIS. From your statement below I
came to understand that you are new in UDP if not you would have known the
immense contribution Falaye did for the UDP party as a whole. I think you ,
as you claimed yourself as the UDP coordinator in UK should have engaged
yourself with unification process than dividing people. As a party or
individual aspiring to lead our nation , you must be ready to be patient,
tolerant, apologetic and above all accommodating all types of innuendos.
Veritably, you are looking for peoples' support and people are not looking for
your support. Falaye, I know since the hay days of 1996 is without
qualm a die-heart supporter of UDP. I have witness this with my eye, as recent
as 2009 Falaye have hosted and organized a meeting for UDP in New
york. So what are you talking about here, brother?
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From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) >
To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])
Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 5:41:23 AM
Subject: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what is
your role? Falaye in mind
Haruna
I thought each of the opposition parties and the ruling APRC has witness
cross carpeters over the years. Hence Badou is miss informed on his party's
cross carpeted folks. I can recall Sulayman Darboe, a young candidate for
PDOIS who rented in our home and then deflected to APRC, One Mr Sambou who
left PDOIS even went on to reveal Halifa's eating habits.
Rambo with all due respect was chosen as the youth leader as a gesture to
his suffering and the outward potentials he demonstrated.
The party was alerted by a good member in Bakau on Rambo's shortermism
agenda. He was monitored and sidelined. Our Youth leaders have toured the
country twice without him.
He never toured with the youth leaders, hence we were prepared for his
actions.
It is sad to see his short term ambitions get ahead of his sound
reasoning. However, Rambo whatever compel him to join the slow killer of sick HIV
victims, shall surface clearly later.
This brings me to the frequent chat on Freedom radio by a guys call Falaye
Baldeh. This man is calling himself a UDP supporter whilst he knows he is
not. His assume commentator title on Gambian politics is fair game but let
him be honest and call him what he is.
Serious supporters of UDP advise the party through the internal mechanism.
Falaye will not divulge on his marital woes in the open, he will not
relate his short coming in the opening, why does he think calling himself a UDP
supporter and never hesitating to say rubbish will do?
If he is so militant, what stops him traveling to Gambia, mobilising the
supporters and youths and face Jammeh?
What money does the opposition have that Falaye is talking about? We know
who is pushing him with the pretentious blah blah. Politics like all human
relations goes through ups and downs, but to hide behind friendly lines
whilst being an enemy is the lowest case of evil manifestation. He is entitled
to his opinion, but please let him speak as non-UDP supporter, so that,
his criticism will make sense, instead of taking serious listeners for a
fool. He has left trails and his associate have also left trails.
When did Falaye extended his hand of support to the UDP?
When did Falaye wrote or spoke to the Executives on his worries and
suggestions?
If Falaye thinks that our opposition should invite Jammeh to a street
fight, I will expect him to travel and join in the preparation of such a move.
The oppositions can do with the support, encouragement, criticism and
presence of all those calling them dead. What have you done to enliven the dead
oppositions?
What suggestions have you demonstrated to tackle the dictator with a gun,
tank and foreigners ready to kill for him and escape to the other side?
Instead of crying Woolf, be constructive, join the line, fight. How much
money did Obama get and spent to get to the White House? You are unwilling
to act and yet quick to blame. How much support did Ouattara get financially
to move around Ivory Coast? People were ready to spend to make them
travel. Going on the streets on Banjul, Serrekunda can make a difference, but
politically, how do you expect the opposition to fund their campaigns well
before elections. Western Democracies have state funding, yet we want
democracy but not with our direct involvement. Your advise is as good as your
loyalty and dedication to assist, then you can blame.
Falaye is pretending on the Freedom radio. His crocodile tears makes no
sense. The UDP allows, encourage constructive criticism by its members,
channel through the party hierarchy. If the likes of Falaye are not helping
strengthen the base of the oppositions, that have no access to the radio,
Television, money, and hardly any editor will publish critical comments about
the regime, what help do such an opposition require?
Gambia is not the property of any opposition politician, hence those
unhappy are welcome to form their warrior party and lead the charge, hopefully,
our hunt for martyrs will happily come to pass. In Tunis, people were ready
to act, they didn't just sit in far places enjoying the niceties and
continue saying things, they went out. With or without the opposition, it is a
fact that, people can act. What are Gambians waiting for? You can be the
martyr if you chose, we will happily inscribe you on our chest. Come out
guys!!!
This is not to say, their are no rooms for improvement, however, do your
quoter as well. Everyone needs some form of encouragement in dealing with
difficult political climate. Partisans will obvious be critical of each
other, but members within the same party require a civilise constructive
internal process of dealing with grievances not the Judaising form of
retributions. What our tongues twist, our hearts manifest.
Suntou
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