Mr Jawo:

I don't see how asking someone to communicate interactively can curtail
their freedom of speech. May be you can enlighten me?

Jah


On 14/03/06, jawo abdoulie <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Ginny,
>
> You are totally right. Fundamentally, intolerance is the beginning of the
> shackling of democrarcy and the gagging of free speech. Undoubtledy, these
> are major facets of human liberty and progress that The Gambia is yearning
> for under the current APRC's utter disregard of tolerating divergent, and
> often more mature, views.
>
> Unfortunately, throughout history, there seems to have always been the
> tendency of trying to make free speech free only when it is in line with
> one's views. However, in this day and age, the best way to combat the
> distortion of the truth is through more enlightened truth. In short, that
> is, more mature ideas and arguemnets, not condemnation; as condemnation is
> the only ammunition available for those who have run out of ideas, of
> knowledge of how to handle/address situations, expecially those which are
> seen to be different from what one stands for....
>
> Those seeking the Altar of Freedom, must not only contiunue to search  for
> freedom, but tolerate it from others as well; as the solution to freedom can
> only be more freedom and nothing else.
>
> Ginny, your objectivity is great.
>
> Regards.
>
> Abdoulie Jawo
> UNDP Malawi
>
> Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hello, all, while I understand some people's concerns about Saihou
> Mballow forwarding emails from SS Daffeh, if we start saying who can
> or can't forward, or what one can or can't post / forward, where does
> it stop? People forward various things here all the time, from the
> Foroya to the New Statesman, among other things, and no one in the
> past has said anything about that. Is the issue that there isn't a
> means of commenting and giving feedback to the one writing /
> forwarding the articles, or is it just that people disagree and so
> they feel the need to say something?
>
> If you're going to start banning forwards, you should ban
> everyone or ban no one. I don't think it's fair to just pick on one
> person, simply because you disagree with what they are saying.
>
> If I read an issue of Forya or the New Statesman and I feel that
> what they are saying is wrong, or their logic or use of statistics are
> faulty, do I have a means to comment directly to them and thus give
> feedback? If I don't, and this is just a mere forward, what is the
> difference between these forwards and what Saihou is forwarding?
>
> I just don't see the "Daffeh" issue is that big of a deal.
> People forward stuff here all the time, and if I don't like it, most
> of the itme, I just delete it and move on. And I think the
> condemnation of Saihou is a bit selective considering that there have
> been toher forwards that other people have sent in, that don't have a
> means whereby people can comment directly to the person, or, of
> course, the person isn't directly subscribed to the Gambia-l.
>
> If the only difference between what Saihou is doing and what
> others have done is that the majority of the list members just don't
> agree with what he, or the author of the forward, is saying, than what
> does that say about people's supposed support of free speech and
> democracy? If one truly believes in free speech and democracy, then
> one must not try to silence someone that htey don't agree with.
>
> Ginny
>
>
>
> On 3/8/06, abdoukarim sanneh wrote:
> > Mr Momodou.S Sidibeh
> > Thanks for your response. I think the present global historical reality
> > does not require whether politically you are allied to left or rights.
> The
> > British Labour party is a show case example after abolition of clause 4.
> The
> > second example is the corporate take over of china which is still under
> one
> > party communist rule. The third example is closer to home Africa
> National
> > Congress of South Africa. Within the rank and file of ANC, composed of
> South
> > Africa Communist party, advocates of Scientific Socialism, Marxist
> humanist,
> > Nationalist, capitalist, etc. What was ANC's pathway to address
> dehumanise
> > economic realities of South African masse after liberation from the
> > aparthied regime? ANC, when into to adopted nothing order than
> neoliberal
> > economic policies dictate by the world bank and IMF.
> > Mr Sidebeh you are wrong to think UDP is right wing political
> > organisation. Please I refer you to make a research into the party's
> > manifesto. UDP value nothing order social democracy with emphasis on
> rule of
> > law, constitution democracy and social justice. It is basic fundamental
> of
> > the party in the 1996 and 2001 election.
> > Mr Sidibeh, just like the Libdem in United Kingdom within their ranks
> > consist right and left wing politicians but all what the groups share in
> > common is the liberal values. On the question of New Statesman,even with
> the
> > fact that New paper is seem in many quarter as a left wing press but the
> > evolution in global politics enable the media to change lot of its
> utopian
> > views. It is like globalisation and its discontent in many perspective
> but
> > that does not mean that dynamic toward globalisation cannot address
> global
> > inequality and environmental issues.
> > Once again have a good working week and I hope the progressive debate
> from
> > you end will continue.
> >
> > Momodou S Sidibeh wrote:
> > Brother Abdoukarim Sanneh Balamang!
> >
> > I have the feeling you are wooing me into the UDP? That would be an
> > impossible sell.
> > I agree with you that for any coalition to remain stable (and infact
> > democratic) it ought to be led by " ...a leading opposition...", (your
> > words). But perhaps that is all you and I agree upon?
> > I must say that I am a little surprised to learn that you are a UDP
> militant
> > as you are the most prolific in feeding us a constant diet of leftist
> > analysis from the New Statesman. So what are you doing there? Can you or
> > your fellow UDPians tell me why you are supporting the UDP? Perhaps your
> > answers may give this debate the radical twist it so greatly needs.
> >
> > Good morning,
> > sidibeh
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "abdoukarim sanneh"
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: List Manager(s): SS. Daffeh/Peace Justice
> >
> >
> > > Mr Sidibeh thanks for your suggestion and I hope Mr Daffeh will soon
> > > subscribe to the debate individually as it will enrich the democractic
> > > debate in the forum. For the interest of the readership I am not part
> of
> > > NADD because the political party I subscribe to as a member is not
> part of
> > > the coalition.We are a masse base political party and are determine to
> > > pursue for the struggle as usual.Any coalition should be lead by a
> leading
> > > opposition and that is the stand of UDP Militants.
> > >
> > >
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