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Bamba sering Manka Mass <[log in to unmask]>
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Thank you mawdo Saihou. This I expected you to do longtime. This agruement should never have reached where it has honestly. UDP Family needs house cleaning because of too much mud throwing. Thanks once more for your intervention. Look these accusations and counter accusations only helps ones distractors and the earlier party officials realise this the better. But your intervention is welcomed and you cleared a lot of doubts for the readership. Thank you Isirabeh.x

--- Original Message ---

From: "Saihou Mballow" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 3 February 2014 18:44
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Setting the record straight.....Demba and Suntu's interview.

Please Hon. Pa Saikou,
do not waste your time on this issue any more. As you rightly stated first
i was the one contacted however directed the UDP Administrative Secretary
Ebou Manneh to contact you hence you are the UDP-NYC Coordinator. In fact
due to the urgency of the request from Mr. Manneh, i asked you to call him
immediately and you did because he called me back to let me know that you
are connected about the matter. You wrote an Invitation letter which you
let Hon. Wassa Janneh, Mr. Falai Baldeh, Hon. Bakary Manneh and my self to
know about. Hon.Kujabi, today if anyone should ask anything about the UDP
NYC Chapter, you are the one he or she should contact because all of us
look upon you and we respect you very well.

Next what happened at the American Embassy-Banjul is only best known to Mr.
Yaya Jallow, Ousainou Darboe, and Ebou Manneh. Well one can speculate but
no one can come out here with an evidence.

My concern here is that both You and Mr. Suntou S. Daffeh are valuable
assets to the Party and to the struggle to bring about genuine democracy
and respect for fundamental human rights in The Gambia. I cannot mention
here all the good efforts both of you have done and are still doing for the
UDP Party but it is only God who can reward you.


It is no secret that Suntou S. Daffeh and Abdoukarim Sanneh are the first
people in UK that we were dealing with concerning help for the UDP party
and they tried extremely well as a result today we have a UDP- UK chapter
there. I have good respect for them.

Let us treat this incident as a misunderstanding and move on. We have many
wars to fight in the coming years. Thank you all.

Saihou


On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Pa. Saikou Kujabi <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Daffeh,
>
> Thanks again for validating my report.  You keep repeating the same junk
> by saying that the caller only called Yaya's daughter, and she voluntarily
> revealed her visa issue, "without being asked". This is the same deceptive
> position you have always maintained. What new evidence is here that your
> investigation has revealed? Absolutely nothing. You see, you are just
> determined to bend the truth just to cover someone else's behind. Your dude
> interrogated the little girl prior to the interview and you keep lying that
> it was after the effect.
>
> Common sense teaches you that given the effect of this treacherous deed,
> your dude will never admit publicly to this cowardly act. Further, who in
> his right mind will expect you to hang a "UDP" militant? Do not ever
> confuse interrogation with torture. I am very familiar with the word. I
> deal with the process in my professional life. Go figure out.
>
> Now you seem to be gradually narrowing down your argument to challenging
> me to a quiz. I can do that too. I already know the definition of UDP--PPO.
>
> Pa. Saikou Kujabi.
>
>
>   On Saturday, February 1, 2014 7:17 PM, UDP United Kingdom <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>  And by the way, the caller didn't asked Mr Jallow's daughter anything
> other than her father's whereabout. It was she who voluntarily gave info
> about her student visa application, not Mr Jallow's visa, without been ask.
>
> Once pasaikou, spit it out. The public wants to where the crunchy nut
> lies;  how did this brief conversation that you branded 'interrogation',
> which happened after mr jallow was refused visa and the story already in
> the public domain, retroactively affected Mr Jallow's
> visa application?? Don't forget to get grip of the meaning of the word
> 'interrogat' first. It may be helpful in this very trying time of your life.
>
> He who asserts must prove.
>
> Daffeh
>
> On Saturday, 1 February 2014, Bamba sering Manka Mass <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>  I have said  I have risen above childish arguements and have heeded the
> advice of Gambians who care so much about our country and agreed with them
> that we have serious issues at hand. I will not revisit the past about the
> UDP online. If any member wants to discuss the party, join me on a UDP
> platform,  gathering or amongst Party members.x Nowhere else.x
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Pa. Saikou Kujabi" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: 1 February 2014 22:12
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Setting the record straight.....Demba and Suntu's interview.
>
>   Sereign Bamba,
>
>  Am afraid you have misread, or misunderstood my phrase. Please revisit
> the sentence that mentioned your name. In response to PPO Daffeh's request
> for clarity, I stated; "nobody else is asking for any clarity, but you. Not
> even so much of Sereign Bamba now". Simply put, you are no longer asking
> for any clarity now.
>
>  Nonetheless, if you want to let go, you are welcome. I must tell you
> though, that you have nobody to blame but yourself. You chose to join
> Daffeh in attacking me and Yaya Jallow in defense of Suntu, despite the
> fact that I have provided an authentic version that involved me personally.
> You could have simply picked up a phone and call Ebou Manneh. If Ebou would
> have told you anything different, then you can call me a liar, and at that
> point I would have provided the whole world with the correspondence that I
> sent to the US Embassy and to the Secretariat on behalf of the party.
>
>  I have always kept a low profile all these years that this none sense
> name calling has been going on. I am not that kind of a citizen that any of
> you can shut down in this forum or elsewhere. You even bragged that you are
> willing to engage any of the " liars, so-called founding members of UDP,
> and sponsored candidates" in a debate. Trust me Sereign, you do not have to
> go any further than my level. Am probably the youngest among those that are
> targeted here, so I will gladly avail myself for that debate. Bring it on
> sooner rather than later please!!!  Well, am sorry but I am one of the
> former sponsored candidates living in New York, and I do not have to wait
> for my name to be called out. Go back and read your initial response to my
> piece.
>
>  Even your this very piece has tons of allegations that deserve a fitting
> response. You alleged that UDP "selected few"  and brought them to the
> United States" Tell me who those "selected few" are. I can tell you
> categorically that I do not know of any such "selected few" in the New York
> Gambian community, not among those who publicly declare themselves as UDP
> supporters or sympathizers. I have a particular interest in knowing those
> few, so they can be reached out to.
>
>  In conclusion, and hopefully an acceptance to your plea for disarmament,
> I wold like you to name one, just one UDP top official who has not brought
> in a son, daughter, nephew, niece, or even self proclaimed party militant
> for an official visit or otherwise. Tell me what is wrong with a father
> travelling or wanting to travel with a his child.? Sereign Bamba, one think
> I want to make abundantly clear to all and every UDP member of any status,
> is that I am not gonna allow myself to be held in bondage on account of
> party loyalty. If UDP militants cannot handle one of the fundamental tenets
> of democracy (freedom of speech in this case), they might as well call it a
> quit. It simply indicates that UDP is not ready to lead The Gambia, because
> it will do worst than AFPRC/APRC, period.  Anybody who wanna take me on
> will be more than welcome. Am not retreating until at such a time that the
> smoke is com
>
>
>  On Saturday, February 1, 2014 7:01 AM, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>   Gentlemen,
>
>  Please let us bury the hatchet and move on to more pressing matters
> happening in our country. All you guy are doing is harming the party you
> all care about so passionately, so please for the sake of UDP, let this
> matter go, before you cause more damage. We all know these are the issues
> that Yaya Jammeh loves and it is at the detriment of UDP and it's
> leadership on the ground.
>
>  Please, I beg of you all! Just tackle these issues in house by private
> mail rather than wash dirty loins in public.
>
>  Thanks in advance,
>
>  Kejau
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 08:19:01 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [G_L] Setting the record straight.....Demba and Suntu's
> interview.
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Bro Pa Saikou, with all due respect, if you guys would not heed my candid
> advice to desist from personal attacks as it affects no one but yourselves
> and the party you all talks so much about, get me out of it!
>
> So much of Bamba Sering Mass what???
>
> I am not Daffeh neither was I speaking for anyone and you know that. I
> have always maintained my neutrality here. But I can't defend lies against
> truth and if you have problems with that? Then be my guest on the L
>
> UDP I have been and UDP I still am. I have been independently minded and
> have always defended the truth. When UDP sent some people to America (you
> and I know who are they are) while leaving most of us to tackle it out with
> the dictator, what was the criteria used that led to few chosen so called
> diehards to come to American? Those selected few were doing exactly the
> same thing most of us were doing for the party. But we all understood that
> not everyone can come in the name of the Party because some has to remain
> behind to hold the pillars.
>
> Lets let sleeping dogs lie I beg. I did not attack anyone but Yaya Jallow
> my deputy leader for the way and manner he handled this whole visa
> transactions which I think I am entitled to. My question was why involve
> his daughter? Was she part of the deligation or invitees ? No said Pa
> Saikou yourself. How did she came to a joint application with her father?
> Well no answer is coming from either yaya or his self appointed generals. I
> though Yaya was a wise leader but he proved me wrong.
> How could someone then come out to heep all the blame of it all on the
> party leader??
>
> There can be only one answer. Ask those who are blaming the leader.
>
> One has right to challenge leaders yes but defending lies against a leader
> is treacherous in my view and that is exactly what you guys are doing. You
> sent the invitations and catagorically stated that Yaya's daughter was
> never part of it. Infact according to you Yaya's daughter had an I°20 so???
> You and I know even an I°1000 does not qualify one an American visa. Then
> if Yaya did include his daughter in his applications to secure her a visa,
> fine. All of us should have no problems with that  but, I mean but was it
> transparent? hell far from it. Therefore if things turn out they way he had
> not expected, he should have done everything within his means to bury thr
> hatchet for he created the hatchet himself.
>
> How many sons and daughters are UDP diehards? you tell me?? Would their
> families want them to remain in banjul while leader's children fly abroad?
> As I said earlier, we were all UDP but only a few were selected and brought
> to America by UDP leadership. Ok by me  but was it transparent? Far from iy
> but it bothered anyone left in the Gambia. We were all happy that atleast
> the Party would have credible fundraisers. What happened?? You tell me. I
> have always believed in fate and still belief fate brought me abroad and
> made me so proud that I owed allegiance to only fate. If you ask me, even
> that selection was never transparent but no one blamed it on the leaders.
> I have not attacked you therefore when you having it with Suntu despite my
> candid advice, when you responding to Suntu, pls leave my humble name out.
>
> If you know one about UDP, I too knew atleast half. You did not entered
> the  House before me so lets not wash out dirty linen in public. Remember I
> am still the red ninja. I beg I have grown now and risen above these child
> things my children go to uni. Therefore am growing fast nonstop. Don't drag
> me or else! My humble advice.x
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Pa. Saikou Kujabi" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: 1 February 2014 03:27
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Setting the record straight.....Demba and Suntu's interview.
>
>   Daffeh,
>
>  You are shying away from the topic. You are suppose to produce a new
> evidence that will discredit the facts I presented. Thus far, you have
> failed to do that, and am afraid you can never do so because you do not
> have one. You are just a joker and the only lost sheep in the midst. Nobody
> else is asking for any clarity, but you. Not even so much of Sereign Bamba
> now. I don't own myself? People use me for their selfish purposes? What a
> cheap trash talk you have cornered yourself into. Wait until I bust your
> anger button harder. Hear yourself here, "I know you are no longer UDP,
> have the courage to tender your resignation" What a contradiction as
> always. If I am already not a UDP, why would I tender any resignation, and
> to who.
>
>  Daffeh, in all honesty, UDP should discard you for good. Your political
> ignorance and protectionist attitude cannot earn the party any good. Don't
> worry about me, am marching along with Gambians of all political
> affiliation, as well as non partisan comrades. You hang in there drunk in
> your partisan crap. For me my record stands for itself. Not a perfect one
> for sure, but one that I am very proud of. If stuck against yours, you will
> vanish in a blink of an eye. Keep swinging at UDP New York, "you did this,
> you said that, I tried to reconcile you with UDP-USA", shut up!!! You are
> too close to the President to be an honest broker. What is the problem that
> we have with each other?  You have been all over the map, spilling out the
> vendetta that you had in your chest against us in New York. You can drop
> dead. Who cares?
>
>  I personally don't worship leaders. I work with them, mutual respect,
> honesty, and sincerity. By the way, how many UDPs are there now? You asked
> what I know about UDP? A lot. You told me the first and the only time you
> and I spoke, that you were only in high school visiting the UDP bure
>
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