Kukeh, I don't believe you're confused. If you get confused, there's no chance in hell for any of us. So prove to us that you're confoosed.
Haruna.
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From: Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sun, Jan 23, 2011 9:27 am
Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what is your role? Falaye in mind
I am a little confused. Is Joe Joe the same as Joe Sambou?
Malanding
On 1/21/2011 10:47 PM, Joe Joe wrote:
Suntou, someone alerted me to your mail regarding your reference to a Mr. Sambou as a bad apple. Since my last name is Sambou, I was just wondering the Mr. Sambou you are referring to (his first name).
"Sulayman Darboe, Mr Sambou and some others are perfect examples of bad apples who can't stand the heat."
Thanks
Joe
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:55:14 +0000
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what is your role? Falaye in mind
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Badou
A week is a long time in politics and talking about unity, Falaye is aware of things happening under his nose, hence zip it on that. We have enough weekly Tele conference with every serious UDP member in Diaspora every Saturday for two to three hours.
Whoever have a serious issue to discuss, the platform is there adequately. However, you don't have to claim you are PDOIS or APRC. I understand some can sit tightly on the fence and wish for a level playing field devoid of harassment, human rights abuses, equal access to TV, Radio and a free press etc without being part of any political group. This is possible and I know brothers who are working toward such goal. I have attended demos with some of this folks.
However, you cannot curtail any discussion here or any where in the cyber space. Referring to Rambo's conduct can include all those who did what he just copy. His predecessors are many and there will be others. It is the reality of dictatorship.
This is prevalent in Sudan, Algeria, Syria, The South Americas and Africa. Even in Europe people cross carpet, however, for those, they do it with good intentions, not knowingly join a criminal organisation that at best operate a shadow government.
Sulayman Darboe, Mr Sambou and some others are perfect examples of bad apples who can't stand the heat. Falaye on the hand is destructive and countering the efforts of his so-call party. If he is not satisfy with the party's choice of candidate, doesn't he know what he should have done? Genuine Democrat who oppose Obama during the primaries rally round him after his selection. You try to work out things inside your camp. Do I think that, you will find any problem with his double standard misninforation, I don't think so.
There is no need to create a false myriad. Falaye should air his grievances directly to the UDP executives, UDP able youth leaders, MPs, Yayai Compins, etc. He may influence things through that.
I careless what you have to say about the UDP. I have no problem with the criticism of those who are not calling themselves UDP members. But you don't build a house and slowly start setting fire to it. I have listened to Falaye on a couple of occasion, sometimes I thought Pa doesn't have any other independent voice to speak with about the UDP instead of the duo who are seriously disconnected with current affairs of the party.
No wonder Sedia and Halifa said, we "youths in Diaspora know nothing about the situations on the ground." Their assertions that, we criticise them without lending any form of support is true. Obama raises his campaign funds from ordinary people and donors. Who is donating to counter the Yahya Jammeh free bank? How many Gambians will decline a D50,000 when offered on political grounds? Come on, who will? Let alone when the amount is in hundreds of thousand.
Now, we in the opposition don't have any such money, but we can at least fuel our vehicles, visit supporters country wide, attend their ceremonies, talk to them. This is the slow process that can counter Yahya. Gambians are not militant in a serious way. Calling for mass demonstration is a far fetch idea. Let us speak with the opposition leaders, encourage them to visit voters, donate to PDOIS, UDP, NRP. The easy blame game is only absolving us of involvement, yet when folks who spend their own resources, sacrifice it all for change commence to be corrupt we renew another line of attack.
Gambians can't have their cake and eat. Ghana, Nigeria have companies now that can do the Europe-America political donations, we don't. South African has businesses that donate heavily to political parties, we don't. The few individual donations are not enough to counter Jammeh's long hands. We all see him shamelessly handing raw cash on TV. Is this kind of politics new? Hell no. PPP big wigs use to do it, Jammeh took it to a higher level, with maximum exposure. Then it use to be bags of rice, few hundreds.
Let us continue blaming the opposition, it will bring miracles. Yes, they need to be reminded of the urgency we are all facing. But what is your part in it. You don't even have to back any opposition by name, just scramble for votes for them in your own way. The military are enjoying for now. Can we depend on them to rid us of Yahya, it is a wait and see. How of them do we have with us in Diaspora and how many have we ever heard making plans to do the revolution for us? God is our saving grace, He is always with us, and him Him let us depend and do our quorter. Thanks
Suntou
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Banura Samba <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Suntou, I think you need some background information before jumping into conclusion that I am a PDOIS supporter. I have no idea what you talking about. I think you are talking out of paranoia and confirmation bias.Talking about Sulayman Darboe's defection to APRC is not the issue here, we talking about Rambo. I think we should be looking for solutions to avoid future defections of our party militants than picking bones with other people.
I think you need to do your home work very well before jumping into slippery conclusions who belongs to UDP or PDOIS. From your statement below I came to understand that you are new in UDP if not you would have known the immense contribution Falaye did for the UDP party as a whole. I think you , as you claimed yourself as the UDP coordinator in UK should have engaged yourself with unification process than dividing people. As a party or individual aspiring to lead our nation , you must be ready to be patient, tolerant, apologetic and above all accommodating all types of innuendos. Veritably, you are looking for peoples' support and people are not looking for your support. Falaye, I know since the hay days of 1996 is without qualm a die-heart supporter of UDP. I have witness this with my eye, as recent as 2009 Falaye have hosted and organized a meeting for UDP in New york. So what are you talking about here, brother?
From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 5:41:23 AM
Subject: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what is your role? Falaye in mind
Haruna
I thought each of the opposition parties and the ruling APRC has witness cross carpeters over the years. Hence Badou is miss informed on his party's cross carpeted folks. I can recall Sulayman Darboe, a young candidate for PDOIS who rented in our home and then deflected to APRC, One Mr Sambou who left PDOIS even went on to reveal Halifa's eating habits.
Rambo with all due respect was chosen as the youth leader as a gesture to his suffering and the outward potentials he demonstrated.
The party was alerted by a good member in Bakau on Rambo's shortermism agenda. He was monitored and sidelined. Our Youth leaders have toured the country twice without him.
He never toured with the youth leaders, hence we were prepared for his actions.
It is sad to see his short term ambitions get ahead of his sound reasoning. However, Rambo whatever compel him to join the slow killer of sick HIV victims, shall surface clearly later.
This brings me to the frequent chat on Freedom radio by a guys call Falaye Baldeh. This man is calling himself a UDP supporter whilst he knows he is not. His assume commentator title on Gambian politics is fair game but let him be honest and call him what he is.
Serious supporters of UDP advise the party through the internal mechanism. Falaye will not divulge on his marital woes in the open, he will not relate his short coming in the opening, why does he think calling himself a UDP supporter and never hesitating to say rubbish will do?
If he is so militant, what stops him traveling to Gambia, mobilising the supporters and youths and face Jammeh?
What money does the opposition have that Falaye is talking about? We know who is pushing him with the pretentious blah blah. Politics like all human relations goes through ups and downs, but to hide behind friendly lines whilst being an enemy is the lowest case of evil manifestation. He is entitled to his opinion, but please let him speak as non-UDP supporter, so that, his criticism will make sense, instead of taking serious listeners for a fool. He has left trails and his associate have also left trails.
When did Falaye extended his hand of support to the UDP?
When did Falaye wrote or spoke to the Executives on his worries and suggestions?
If Falaye thinks that our opposition should invite Jammeh to a street fight, I will expect him to travel and join in the preparation of such a move.
The oppositions can do with the support, encouragement, criticism and presence of all those calling them dead. What have you done to enliven the dead oppositions?
What suggestions have you demonstrated to tackle the dictator with a gun, tank and foreigners ready to kill for him and escape to the other side?
Instead of crying Woolf, be constructive, join the line, fight. How much money did Obama get and spent to get to the White House? You are unwilling to act and yet quick to blame. How much support did Ouattara get financially to move around Ivory Coast? People were ready to spend to make them travel. Going on the streets on Banjul, Serrekunda can make a difference, but politically, how do you expect the opposition to fund their campaigns well before elections. Western Democracies have state funding, yet we want democracy but not with our direct involvement. Your advise is as good as your loyalty and dedication to assist, then you can blame.
Falaye is pretending on the Freedom radio. His crocodile tears makes no sense. The UDP allows, encourage constructive criticism by its members, channel through the party hierarchy. If the likes of Falaye are not helping strengthen the base of the oppositions, that have no access to the radio, Television, money, and hardly any editor will publish critical comments about the regime, what help do such an opposition require?
Gambia is not the property of any opposition politician, hence those unhappy are welcome to form their warrior party and lead the charge, hopefully, our hunt for martyrs will happily come to pass. In Tunis, people were ready to act, they didn't just sit in far places enjoying the niceties and continue saying things, they went out. With or without the opposition, it is a fact that, people can act. What are Gambians waiting for? You can be the martyr if you chose, we will happily inscribe you on our chest. Come out guys!!!
This is not to say, their are no rooms for improvement, however, do your quoter as well. Everyone needs some form of encouragement in dealing with difficult political climate. Partisans will obvious be critical of each other, but members within the same party require a civilise constructive internal process of dealing with grievances not the Judaising form of retributions. What our tongues twist, our hearts manifest.
Suntou
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