Hey,
The Wuli Seat is history just like all other opposition seats. You guys need
to urge your leaders to unite instead of fighting endlessly here daily.
Professor Jammeh and we in the APRC are happy. We will celebrate another
landslide. This time 82% of the votes!!!.

Happy holidays!!!

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>  Indeed Suntou. What I would hope uncle Sidia would do is to seek more
> purposeful mandate from PDOIS to negotiate on her behalf or suggest Halifa
> negotiate for PDOIS since uncle Sidia is a nadd member of parliament.
> Invoking nadd in serious negotiations about alliance-building with PDOIS is
> simply annoying and unhelpful. UDP and NRP withdrew from nadd and they are
> the two largest parties. GMC was never a part of nadd. NDAM pretty much
> fizzled away. PPP is not an equal partner in nadd. So realistically nadd is
> PDOIS. I understand it is difficult to divorce itself from nadd but the
> sooner PDOIS carry on serious conversations on alliance-building, the better
> her chances of salvaging her only nadd seat.
>
> Haruna. Come 2011, if PDOIS doesn't sober-up, Sidia will have a hard time
> keeping his Wulli seat. Or call me Mams.
>
>  In a message dated 12/29/2010 8:41:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Haruna
> Musa, i guess is desperate like other stakeholders to say or do all that is
> necessary to make a break through. Daffeh on the other hand was honest with
> the position that, the whole problem here is about leading the opposition
> outfits. And if the normal route which known all over the world is ignore
> merely to please a difficult group, then what is the point wasting time on
> them?
> Lets be fair, NADD itself has entrench clauses that will make matters
> difficult. Why shouldn't the bigger lead the opposition? This is what the
> whole merry-go-round is about. Guinea did it, Kenya, Senegal, U.K yet we
> cannot do it because..
> Your uncle waas serious embarrased with the subsiquents PDOIS responses. On
> the whole, he was merely an MP who cannot speak for his group, what a drama.
> It Says a lot about our country, small but complicated.
> Suntou
>
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 5:42 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> Thank you Suntou for sharing the erudite and circumspect Daffeh again. I
>> always enjoy him.
>>
>> On his take on Father Mose, I think if he understands what I understand
>> about the man, Daffeh wouldn't be surprised that Uncle Mose manufactures a
>> compromise out of a dead horse.
>>
>> On my uncle Sidia, Daffeh is spot-on about general disappointment in Uncle
>> Sidia's merry-go-round and to accept the role of negotiator/partner in
>> alliance-building when he knew he is not a reliable partner in such
>> momentous conversation is utterly disappointing to me as his nephew. From
>> the beginning, when Hon. Halifa suggested Uncle Sidia was to represent NADD
>> in these friggin negotiations, I suggested it was a landmark ruse. First of
>> all, despite their kidnap of OJ and Waa, these two honourables' estrangement
>> to decision-making concerning NADD is spectacular. In "NADD", what PDOIS
>> says goes, Goes. Don't even kid yourself. And NADD is a dead horse. Or shall
>> I say dead donkey as the idiot Yahya is wont to quip. Every idiot gets a
>> revelation once in his/her lifetime. And to then saddle a dead donkey with a
>> trick of an Agenda as reins is even more insiduous and dishonest.
>>
>> I associate myself completely with Mr. Daffeh's sobriety. Which is more
>> than can be said for Father Mose.
>>
>>  Haruna. I love you people.
>>
>>   -----Original Message-----
>> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2010 8:33 am
>> Subject: Daffeh on Musa Jeng's compromise: Will Musa explain his stance
>> much better?
>>
>>   *Musa Jeng Got it Wrong on ' The Compromise'
>> by SS Daffeh*
>>
>> *Madam Editor, *
>>
>> Please allow me space to respond to an article, The Compromise, I read in
>> your well established and reputable medium,
>> authored by none other than our dear friend and brother, Mr.  Musa Jeng of
>> the U.S based Save The Gambia
>> Democracy Project [STGDP].
>>
>> In this article, Mr. Jeng articulated how a compromise could be reached to
>> break the stalemate that has taken grip of the
>> coalition negotiations between the main opposition United Democratic Party
>> [UDP] and PDOIS with the former joining
>> NADD, a political entity he described as belonging to all opposition
>> parties, and assume leadership of it. He posited this
>> as the only realistic option to break the stalemate, and went on to
>> justify his call on the basis that due to their experience
>> in 2006 and the aftermath, PDOIS will never be willing to go along with
>> what the conventional wisdom dictates and
>> become part of a UDP led coalition. However, he did not state what this
>> experience was and why UDP should be held
>> responsible for it.
>>
>> First of all, Mr. Jeng should be reminded that this process like all
>> coalition negotiations requires an honest approach that
>> puts national interest above all others including ideologies and personal
>> egos and differences. This can only be done if
>> all stakeholders including PDOIS, accept the universal standards and
>> practices of coalition building to be the unfettered
>> guiding principles of negotiations. These standards and practices require
>> that the biggest party be adopted as a
>> vanguard and for all other parties and political entities to throw their
>> weight behind.
>>
>> In 2006, both NADD and UDP presented themselves before the Gambian
>> electorates as independent sovereign political
>> parties and tested their individual electoral strengths. The UDP had
>> almost five times more votes than NADD and
>> currently has more representation in parliament than any other opposition
>> party in the country. It also has a bigger and
>> more robust grass root support base than any other opposition party in the
>> country. To put it in a nutshell; UDP is by far
>> the biggest opposition party in The Gambia. I am sure this is a fact that
>> Mr. Jeng himself would not like to challenge for it
>> is irrefutable and beyond questioning. I therefore do not see any wisdom
>> in his call for UDP to join a smaller party or
>> entity in the guise of compromise. This is obviously illogical and lacking
>> conformity with the dictates of common sense. It
>> is like, as one observer put it, Hilary Clinton offering the vice
>> presidency to Barack Obama when in fact, it was Barack
>> who had the most votes. It doesn’t work like that in politics, am afraid.
>>
>> The common sense approach would be for the smaller parties and entities
>> including NADD to adopt the UDP as a
>> vanguard and rally behind it in line with internationally recognised and
>> acceptable norms.
>>
>> Given the polarising and intractable nature of the NADD dispute of 2006, a
>> dispute that still lingers in the background, I
>> find it incomprehensible that Mr. Jeng would like to think that the
>> resurrection of the same old squabble that causes
>> serious damage to inter-opposition party relations could engender a
>> realistic compromise, especially given that the
>> demand for opposition unity is more palpable today than ever before. If he
>> had done a careful and balanced
>> assessment of the situation and the facts, it would have surely occurred
>> to him that this idea has no potential except for
>> the opening of the Pandora’s Box once again. I envisaged no realistic
>> compromise in such an environment.
>>
>> The premise of Mr. Jeng’s compromise solution is also flawed and lacking
>> objectivity. In using an unexplained grievance
>> that the PDOIS party supposedly has against the UDP as the sole rational
>> behind his proposal, Mr. Jeng has failed to
>> take into account the already known UDP grievances in the same regard and
>> particularly on the question of registration
>> that altered NADD’s status from that of an alliance to a political party
>> in contravention of the terms of the Memorandum
>> of Understanding [MOU] that established it and which cost the leader of
>> NRP, Mr. Hamat N.K Bah, his parliamentary seat.
>>
>> It is obvious that both NRP and UDP can also use, and quite legitimately,
>> their NADD experience as a reason to reject
>> Mr. Jeng’s proposal. Thus, pandering to personal egos and differences as a
>> form of appeasement just for the sake of it
>> is not helpful in debates of this nature. Our task should be to allow
>> national interest to reign supreme over all others and
>> ask the same of our political leaders.
>>
>> Mr. Jeng’s claim that NADD belongs to all opposition parties is not borne
>> by facts. Although the UDP participated in the
>> creation of NADD the alliance, they did actually pull out from the
>> organisation in 2006 together with the NRP after careful
>> consideration. Therefore, if there was any UDP or NRP claim to NADD, that
>> claim has been entirely relinquished in 2006
>> when both parties pulled out. The rest of that story is now history and it
>> would be pointless for me to deliberate on it. In
>> any case, the NADD debate is an antiquated one that has not only being
>> made obsolete but also lacking taste.
>>
>> Talking about compromise; it is clear that the onus is on NADD and PDOIS
>> to recognise and accept the political
>> legitimacy of a UDP led alliance at least in principle and then ask for a
>> policy concession[s] that accommodates their
>> core values, or concessions in respect of positions in a subsequent
>> government. This is the norm, and it is the kind of
>> approach that is capable of creating an environment in which a real and
>> fair compromise could be engendered and
>> achieved. Any proposal that does not take cognisance of this is not likely
>> to deliver a fair deal and therefore, not likely to
>> result to a compromise. It is the bigger parties which have more to bring
>> into any coalition arrangement than the smaller
>> ones, and this has to be recognised.
>> *
>> PDOIS is being Disingenuous *
>>
>> In another development, I have stumbled on an article written by the
>> gibberish talking Administrative Secretary of PDOIS
>> in which he described the position of the UDP, in respect of the coalition
>> talks, as ‘support for a UDP led alliance without
>> any conditionality’. This is clearly a misrepresentation. UDP’s position
>> has been widely disseminated and understood as
>> calling for a party led alliance in which all parties throw their weight
>> behind the biggest. Anything further than this is
>> nothing but a blatant embellishment that does not represent UDP’s position
>> in anyway. This is how the UDP leader
>> articulated his party’s position in his statement of 8th December 2010;
>>
>> ‘‘I then made the point that the well known norm for the creation of an
>> opposition alliance is for the majority party to lead
>> and others throw behind that party’’.
>>
>> Neither Hon. Sidia Jatta, who was purportedly representing NADD and PDOIS,
>> nor Mr. Ousainou Darboe, who
>> represented UDP, made any mention of conditionality in their separate and
>> conflicting statements regarding their
>> discussion.
>>
>> It is not for UDP to attach conditions to their own proposal- that is
>> simply an unreasonable expectation- but for those who
>> would like to see conditions attached to first accept it in principle and
>> then demand, as a bargaining chip, that conditions
>> be attached. That way, we can move this process one step forward from the
>> principal issue of formula to a more
>> secondary issue of conditionality and thereby making final resolution to
>> the impasse more realistic and feasible.
>>
>> If PDOIS wants to see conditions attached to UDP’s proposal, the sensible
>> and most practicable approach would be for
>> them to accept it in principle first and then state what kind of
>> conditions they would like to see attached. However, PDOIS
>> must not think they can have it both ways; they would have to either
>> indicate their willingness to be part of a UDP led
>> coalition with conditions attached or accept that it isn’t for them to
>> talk about conditionality.
>>
>> The statement by Hon. Sidia Jatta to the effect that the international
>> standard of coalition building posited by the UDP
>> cannot be adopted in The Gambia in the light of the absence of a second
>> round voting system is the most ridiculous
>> statement I have come across in this whole coalition debate. As far as
>> facts are concern, there is no second round
>> voting system in South Africa and yet it was the ANC that led the
>> coalition which brought President Jacob Zuma to
>> power; there is no second round of voting in India and yet it was Sonia
>> Ghandi’s Indian National Congress that led the
>> coalition which returned Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to power; there is
>> no second round voting system in the United
>> Kingdom and yet it is the Conservative party of Prime Minister Cameroun
>> that is leading the coalition government here
>> despite having not won an outright majority in the last general election-
>> the list can go on-, and in all these examples, it
>> is the biggest parties which assume leadership without any resort to
>> primaries. Hon. Jatta’s statement is therefore not
>> only absurd but simply lacking basis. It is nothing but a glib.
>>
>> It is really sad to see a man [Hon. Sidia Jatta] who is widely acclaimed
>> to be a man of impeccable integrity falling for the
>> temptation of misinforming Gambians just to score cheap political points
>> against perceived opponents. His Guinea
>> Conakry-Ivory Coast comment is totally irresponsible and without a place
>> in this all important debate.
>> *
>> SS Daffeh
>> Essex, United Kingdom.**
>> *
>>
>>
>>
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