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Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
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 Is this you Ndokeh?????????// I cannot believe my ears!!!!!!!!!!!!! What?????????????????

Haruna. Somebady tell me it ain't so.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: pancmbai <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:44 pm
Subject: Re: [G_L] They Buy Water in Farafenni; One Reason Why You Should Vote Darboe


   Well said Daffeh. But your opinion matters as a supporter of the UDP.  Without UDP supporters, there wouldn't be Darboe.  

To me, power belongs to me.  It's not about individualism, or a set group of people.   

My observation was primarily premised on the civility you demonstrated during the discourse by calling on the two to be tolerant.  

At this crucial period of our nation's fragile democratization process, we need collective efforts to effect meaningful change.  Let put aside political ideologies and  focus on the bigger picture.  

It's healthy to agree, and disagree.   But it's imperative to observe that in the absence of civility, and sober reasoning the purpose of the discourse would be rendered counterproductive.  Just a thought.    


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From:          UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]>
Sender:        The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:23:08 +0100
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ReplyTo:      The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List              <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [G_L] They Buy Water in Farafenni; One Reason Why You Should Vote Darboe


Thanks pa but am not one of the guys running the udp. Am just part of a support group. So if you are looking for conduct, the litmus test should be those of alhagi ousainu darboe and the aji yamu seckas, not that of me or bamba mass.

Cheers
Daffeh

On Friday, 16 September 2011, UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Kejau, I have described several ways in which to tackle misconduct.and u should have realised that not all are suitable for dealing with criminal conduct.the focus is to prevent malpractice in the first place through check and balances and accountability but  where there is evidence of misconduct whether civil or criminal, it will be dealt with accordingly using the appropiate avenue.
>
> I didn't expect you to go down the route of pettiness or turning yourself into a clown who hasn't read anything I wrote but who choose manifest malice as the udp. Is it udp's problem if others don"t wanna coalesce or is it a national problem?
>
> You are just a grumpy renegage soldier or are you just a pranky ex. Lt.
>
> Daffeh
> On Friday, 16 September 2011, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> You guys are funny? 
>> Daffeh wrote '6. The central govt. will reserve powers to rain in and discipline rogue councils whose behaviour are to congenial to the desires of their people.' - This does not mean criminal, it may mean immoral in any way, unless if congenial to the desire is UDP parlance for crime. 
>> Now if he does mean criminal, that is so damn obvious, it does not warrant mentioning. Congenial, or pleasant to the people, meaning UDP supporters with attitude like you, Ron, Daffeh, and Bambaba. 
>>  
>> May be there is no salvation for us, but replacement of one dictatorship with another, otherwise what has my military career go to do with this? 
>> No wonder the others parties are suspicious of alliance with your party with supporters with attitude like yours! I think some more good folks may need to join the UDP to change these attitudes for the good of all Gambians and the world. 
>> You are right, I was a fine military officer and that means no dictatorial tendency will intimidate me into silence. So it give up and discuss issues and not fabricate logic, where everyone else knows you are fishing.
>> Imofuring....
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:53:13 -0400
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [G_L] They Buy Water in Farafenni; One Reason Why You Should Vote Darboe
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> [-----Original Message-----  From: Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]>  To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>  Sent: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 2:58 pm  Subject: Re: [G_L] They Buy Water in Farafenni; One Reason Why You Should Vote Darboe
>>
>> Thanks Daffeh, 
>> by
>> Ben Fess Tep deh? 
>> How does your party intend to reign in and discipline councils, after they are democratically elected, without them breaking any laws?] Kejau.
>>
>> You reign in elected officials who commit crimes by arresting them and prosecuting them before a competent court of law. You do not reign in anyone who DOES not commit a crime. If you have an incompetent official who was elected, you make sure the voters have recourse to RECALL.
>>
>> [That seems dictatorial,] Kejau.
>>
>> That's because you misunderstood Hon. Daffeh and you are a military man. GOing around arresting and reigning in folk for no reason Kejau. What is wrong with yew????
>>
>> [but you ought to be commended for discussing issues now, at least.] Kejau.
>>
>> This is not an issue. Read the UDP Manifesto. This is a matter of crime and punishment. That is the work of the judiciary and police. Not of opposition parties. The governors set the tone by making sure justice is served equally, without fear or favour.
>>
>> [Second issue is you have not exactly said how you intend to resolve the stand pipe issue. A more thorough analysis may be needed, as the public stand pipe issue can be thorny. It borders on the fair collection of taxes as well and at the same time the provision of water for everyone, IMHO. An alternative solution is to look at other countries beyond our borders, UK for instance, where water is treated as an essential utility and provided in every home and not on the street, just like electricity.] Kejau.
>>
>> Everyone in the world would rather have running water in their homes than have to run to the public tap everytime they need water. Instead of waste public resources on a home in Maryland and shopping sprees for his wife, Yahya could build a water treatment plant for every town, lay the pipework to deliver that water to homes, build a sewage treatment plant to treat wastewater before dumping toxic waste in the ocean and killing off fish or making folk sick all the time. No need to look to another country for potable water and sewerage Kejau. Common sense is all we need. When you build a house, you can tap into the public piping infrastructure like everyone else if you can afford it. If you can't afford it, you go to the public tap or seek assistance from the UDP government's Indigent Assistance Fund where no public tap is easily accessible from your million dalasi mansion.
>>
>> Allez. Haruna.
>>
>>
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