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Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
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Evian,

I didn't know you got such a warped sense of propriety.


[In a message dated 4/23/2009 6:15:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Listen! Who is talking about sending SPAM on this forum? Life is so  full
of contradictions.
Billai, Walai, Talai.] Evian.

Haruna, send SPAM???? What do you take SPAM to be Evian??? You're a  sick
man.
And what have I ever done at Ellen that comes close  to SPAMMING???

[I believe that Muhammed Drammeh betrayed his own guidelines.  Drammeh
initially advised that Ousainou should not be deemed to be a  coward for seeking
sanctuary at the Senegalese High Commission but then  not not only did he,
Drammeh, subsequently personally try to prosecute  Ousainou he ultimately
went to the extent of sentencing Ousainou to life  on the
'Island-of-no-return-from-cowardice'.] Evian.

And what do you call that??? Temporary insanity or bipolar  disposition???
Either way, Dramane is therefore not fit to communicate  with us here until
he gets help for his condition. Subscription at Ellen  presumes sound body
and mind.

[Seriously, If Ousainou were a coward or a selfish opportunist, he  would
have by now joined the APRC regime in some capacity. Nonetheless;]  Evian.

How so? What does that have to do with cowardice or bravery?

[Ousainou is better advised to publicly stand up more against the  abuses
of  power by Jammeh and his cohorts. This is what is expected  of the leader
of any opposition party, much more so from that of the  largest opposition
party in The Gambia.] Evian.

And what is Ousainou doing every day of his life???? You  don't even know
what standing up to Yahya or abuse looks like if it were  to hit you upside
the head.  You think writing a letter to Yahya is  standing up to him????
Very funny.

[I suppose Muhammed could  have been angered by the veiled and open
personal attacks and insinuations  against Halifa Sallah but that's simply no
excuse to follow in the  footsteps of the perpetrators. Two wrongs cannot make it
right.]  Evian.

And where are the veiled and open personal attacks and  insinuations
against Halifa Sallah??? Just because you are confused  doesn't mean your dreams
have come true Evian.

[Finally, I  believe that Grand dad Masoud Haruna Darboe is only in support
of  Malanding's decision against Drammeh because of Drammeh's castigation
of  Ousainou Darboe.] Evian.

NO. You believed wrong.

[The same Haruna would have been praising the Lord and probably also
singing 'Sonnah Mariama Woh' had Muhammed Drammeh's tirades been directed
against Comrade Halifa,] Evian.

No. You're wrong again.

[the Freedom Fighter that Haruna loves to hate.] Evian.

Which Freedom Fighter???? And no I do not love to hate Halifa or  hate to
love him.

[Sheer Double Standards!] Evian.

I know.

[I was taught that a good person must strive to refrain from  resorting to
double standards except on the basis of merit.] Evian.

Evian, how can a good person resort to double standards based on
merit????????????
Is it ever ok to resort to double standards????? You PDOISards got  work to
do on yourselves. Forget Halifa. You guys and gals are the ones  who need
help. No wonder PDOIS cannot gain ground despite all their  efforts. Men. Do
y'all ever reflect on yourselves Evian??? I say an  inventory of the rank
and file is due. How do we know there are not  crazies in PDOIS who would not
seek assistance from Campama for pride  and fear of malnutrition sakes??? If
I ever join PDOIS, I'm sending a good  number of you guys to the insane
asylum. That's probably why I haven't  been imbited to join PDOIS. You're
lucky.

[Haruna, What is  sauce for the goose must also be for the gander. Tu
comprendez?!]  Evian.
Bah Oui. Haruna.

Bailo

--- On Thu, 23/4/09, Haruna  Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



From: Haruna Darbo  <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Justice for Muhammed  Drammeh
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Thursday, 23 April,  2009, 3:28 PM


JDAM,

I am awake even when I'm asleep. I'm like Yahya on that  score.

And I can't believe you're crying about "INJUSTICE" for  Dramane. Like you,
I cherish freedom of speech and expression no  matter how perverse. Because
perversity itself is a matter of  perception. No it is not about Dramane's
right to the  cherished freedoms. Dramane has gone over that bound when he
started  sending multiple identical salvos all trained on insulting a
singular person Ousainou, the leader of a majority party in Gambia.  Dramane was
not accusing Ousainou of a crime or sharing his thoughts  about a crime
Ousainou committed. Dramane was engaged in SPAM, a  violation of Ellen's code of
conduct and therefore risks denying the  rest of us realising a modicum of
value from Ellen. Ellen is not Posten.  I encourage Dramane to go back to
Posten where he began his  witch-hunting via SPAM. I am not sure Posten will
condone that activity.  I could be mistaken however. Nevertheless, Dramane
seemed to begin by  soliciting views on Ousainou's person. That effort ever so
surreptitiously transmogrified into brazen insults and SPAM in total
disregard to the rights of others to peaceably enjoy Ellen. Ellen  is no place
for SPAM.

So even if Dr. Jaiteh did not de-list Dramane, I am  confident Ellen's
listserv and host will discontinue the honour of  providing the generous service
for us. Ellen is not property of  PDOISdrones JDAM.

And how could my name come up in your search for a watchman???? Do  I look
like a nocturnal herbivore???? Please. You disappoint me. And  Mali or no
Mali, I am always friggin awake. I couldn't care less if  Dramane is watchman.
I do not think he possesses the requisite  acumen of the vrai Watchman. You
sell the Watchman short on that score.  Who is to say you're not the
Watchman??? Nay, you are too honourable for  banter of lowly creatures.

May we add you to the GESO revival team conversation???? Pretty  please??

Haruna.


In a message dated 4/23/2009 4:50:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:



Malangding

I know even our Malian friend - unless he is the  elusive Watchman who just
ran off that insufferable  Ethiopian apologist for tyranny in The Gambia -
must be in  the very early hours of the US day, and as such, I do not
expect a response for several hours. By the way, Haruna was  suggested as a
candidate, but his temperament, specialism, and  dictum appears different from
that of the  Watchman, with the latter's milieu covering the broad  sweep of
western history from Antiquity, through the  Renaissance, and Enlightenment,
to the modern day democratic  citadels where the refinements of those ideas
are being  continually practicalsied in the political realm. I don't
suppose you know The Watchman, but let us know  if you have any ideas who s/he is.

Back to Drammeh, and the subject matter of this query. Is  Drammeh's
problem one of posting quota, as Mr Mali regularly  cries about, or is he
suspended/delisted for his views on  Ousainou Darboe?  If the latter, I urge you to
reconvene  yourself, or the pertinent Committee, and reinstate his rights.
We won't be a complete society without embracing all shades  of view, and
contrary to my respected political activist -  Mballow - conversations around
national issues should be as  vigorous as possible. No matter how hurtful
they may be, I  reject the notion that serious national efforts are likely to
collapse from the weight of a few verbal salvos. In any case,  Drammeh met
his match in Yanks, and I am angry at you for taking  away a deevloping
entertainment.

Please reconsider your decision on Drammeh. May be he  knows The Watchman
who drove the proxy Gambian, Dida  Halake, from online Gambia.





LJDarbo

--- On Wed, 22/4/09, Baba Galleh Jallow  <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



From:  Baba Galleh Jallow <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re:  Justice for Muhammed Drammeh
To:  [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, 22 April,  2009, 4:32 PM

 Dear Mr. Drammeh,

Yesterday I expressed the fact  that I do not wish to get involved in your
debate or the  controversy surrounding it. Only the Gambi-L managers can
help  you out. I hope you understand my position.  Thanks.

Baba


____________________________________
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:17:31 -0700
From:  [log in to unmask]
Subject: Justice for Muhammed  Drammeh
To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask];  [log in to unmask]
CC: [log in to unmask]

Dear All,

Can you interven so that I can send my  contributions to the L? I have been
denied that  opportunity by the list managers. Please  help!!!!!!



Muhammad Bai  Drammeh Bin Alhagie Sheihu Muhammad Lamin Drammeh Bin
Muhammad Kanday Drammeh bin Muhammad Kissima Drammeh bin  Foday  Drammeh




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