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Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
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Afinjang,

I was tempted to agree with you but I must agree with Mr. T that there is value in writing and it is the sacrosanct purview of the writer in as much as free speech and free expression are human rights. Our problem as Gambians is that we like to tell people how to live their lives and to brow beat them into acknowledging or owning our problems. It is very easy for Mr. T to hope that what he considers are the problems of Gambia, that Dampha and Haruna regard them so. And that therefore given the seemingly benign nature of his solutions, why all God's children must pause to adopt his solutions. Woe betide any who wishes Mr. T's likes were in his/her political party. Clueless intolerance I say. Haruna.


-----Original Message-----
From: lamin dampha <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: Where is Lawyer Darbo?







Mr Touray

 

I agreed with your points but i think is now time for gambians to look for another options ,bcos writing only is not enough to tackle the problem in our country .We have to look for new ways to reach the electorates .If 90 percent of the gambians were reading the newspapers and the online media, then by this time things had changed already.

 

dampha

rasta vou

nema 

--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Muhammed Lamin Touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



From: Muhammed Lamin Touray <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Where is Lawyer Darbo?
To: [log in to unmask]
RG
Date: Sunday, 26 July, 2009, 3:16 PM







Mr. Sanneh,

 

Please check Foroyaa website and read all the press releases issued by AI, WAMF, CCD, and many others. I read Femi Peter's interview, complaining about difficulty of publish their comments. But what are they doing about it? Nothing.

 

Given the media blackout orchestrated by government to silence Gambians, the main opposition should then try to create its own paper to serve as medium for disseminating information about its programs, human right abuses, press repression, etc. Silence is not acceptable.

 

Secondly, the only way we can change the current status quo is to expose the government to the world, as well as take concrete actions. I think we should give credit where it is due.

 

ML

 



--- On Sun, 7/26/09, abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



From: abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Where is Lawyer Darbo?
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 6:16 AM


Mr Touray
It is better to focus on better issues. I am also concern about fear and silence. Check the occurance of present evidence none is reported in the media back home and so the media don't wanted to cover press releases and statements from politicians. Femi Peter mentioned such in an interview with Freedom. Mr Touray a lot of Gambian are in London but none turn out to demo in the High Commission beacuse of fear. We should be very careful and issue
s of personality cult in the Gambia struggle. With many calling for dialogue I am prevailing on many of you to reason. Yes Halifa speak on the prevailing madness using the Foroyaa but other parties don't have the medium as even stated by OJ Jallow. Let us stop given credit to individuals. We all the mistake that happen from transition leading to the campiagn for adoption of this bogus and phistine constitution. The dialogue have start and we should talk about  changing a murderer today then plan sustainable democarcy tomorrow. Any politician who is willing to take that pathway to me thinks that sustaining the regime of a dictator is what interest him than todays freedom from Jammeh's continual brutality. Jammeh's know issues of tribal politics in the Gambia and is using it as a political capital. It is really unfortunate on this week the dictator's comment is the Mandinka's are the biggest aliens in the country. Should anyone question about such irrational and irresponsible statement in this forum. Let us look strategically a short vision of removing such a dangerous regime whose greed of power and wealth if we didnot act most reasonable well is going to break the social fabric of our society.
 
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:57:22 -0700
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Where is Lawyer Darbo?
To: [log in to unmask]






Suntou,



You seem to be contradicting yourself. On Wednesday you expressed frustrations about “leaders of U.K Gambian organise groupâ=E
2� and “former leading journalists� who did not participate in the Freedom Day demonstration. You even ridiculed the editor of the Point Newspaper, pap saine.



My question is why you hold these ordinary Gambians to a higher moral standard than Lawyer Darbo? Those Gambians never asked anyone to vote for them; they are ordinary Gambian citizens free to decide for themselves. They might even be supporters of Yahya Jammeh, which is perfectly within their rights or be afraid to show their faces for fear of reprisal.



For Lawyer Darbo, it is a completely different thing. Lawyer Darbo volunteered to form a political party and asked Gambia people to support him and the UDP. He promised to fight for their rights and standby them. As a result, several thousand Gambians answered his call for support and voted for him and the UDP. He is essentially their spokesperson.



Can you reconcile your remarks?



Re: Global Day of Action for Gambia: AI and Unions caqlls for end of repression



Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:39 AM



From: "SUNTOU TOURAY" <[log in to unmask]>



To: [log in to unmask]



 



Thanks for sharing Karim. It is small steps that grow to serious platforms. We all know that, the Gambian political landscape is control and dominated by Yaya and his sellout slavers, what serious people can do is take action and highlight the plight of the majority. The Gambians overseas who think they don't have tim
e for action are the losers here.



 



Seeing the son of Deyda, and many young people yesterday gave me a renewed impetus that although the Gambian mentality is benign and timid, change is happening slowly.  The MP Aba sanyang was seen cowardly hiding his face, and the many embassy staff whom we know try taking pictures as if we were afraid of them.



They themselves know fully well that fear is the order of the day in the Gambia. they also know, they themselves couldn't even give a counter response to Focus of Africa BBC after brothers like Abdoulie Jobe, Mr Bojang, and Chogan gave fitting interviews. This shows that, they dare speak without the tyrants approval.



I was also surprise to see many brothers who are not regular writers here in Gambia L, but still they attend and raise their voices. The slavers (those who do the dirty jobs for Yaya) will be ashamed that, people know them and their cruel actions. They wouldn't be left alone. More serious actions are needed now all over Europe and America. big organisations that the Gambia cannot function without will be targeted. collaborative governments like Nigeria and Taiwan will also be targeted in the open. Be ready the few Gambians willing to regulated the one party Gambian state.



Our politicians cannot rectify this imbalance, they are playing in Yahya's circle and they will always come second best. many observers know, our struggle is complicated. Many mundane irrelevant issues are playing into it.=2
0some so-call willing would be leaders of U.K Gambian organise group were missing in action. the reason only they know. former leading journalist were missing, why? only they know. Let them go and romance with the situation back home. we all read Pap Saine formerly trying to romance the regime, but what happen to him later? but to sit on your conscience and accept rudeness and arrogance will be pleasing to bear, that is the Gambian way. But ordinary people attended, there names should not be mentioned. they and many others were true Gambians and brave. I like to be Gambian like you. May God be with the voiceless. Amen.



suntou



Re: Where is Lawyer Darbo?



Saturday, July 25, 2009 9:21 AM



From: "SUNTOU TOURAY" <[log in to unmask]>



To: [log in to unmask]



 







People chose to show their leadership differently. What is missing in our politics is too much talk less action. The leaderships need to weigh their options, if they need to change the status quo, then a united voice is what is needed. let them bring together their supporters, request a license to demonstrate. the talking need to be backed by action.



they are all found wanting on that avenue. Yes Darbo can be talking, but i wonder if that will change anything if every other Gambian is swallowing the bitter pill smoothly.



Halifa may have the optimism of talking, but he knows deep down, the situation is far more complicated than just repeating achieved c
omments. we all know the problems of Yahya's regime, even yahya's parasite knows his down side, what is needed is for us make him uncomfortable by making ourselves uncomfortable at the same time. There is always a possibility of internal coups in all the oppositions parties, we can sideline them and design a new path.








--- On Sat, 7/25/09, SUNTOU TOURAY <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


From: SUNTOU TOURAY <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Where is Lawyer Darbo?
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 9:21 AM







People chose to show their leadership differently. What is missing in our politics is too much talk less action. The leaderships need to weigh their options, if they need to change the status quo, then a united voice is what is needed. let them bring together their supporters, request a license to demonstrate. the talking need to be backed by action.

they are all found wanting on that avenue. Yes Darbo can be talking, but i wonder if that will change anything if every other Gambian is swallowing the bitter pill smoothly.

Halifa may have the optimism of talking, but he knows deep down, the situation is far more complicated than just repeating achieved comments. we all know the problems of Yahya's regime, even yahya's parasite knows his down side, what is needed is for us make him uncomfortable by making ourselves uncomfortable at the same time. There is always a possibility of internal coups in all the oppositions parties, we can sideline=2
0them and design a new path.

suntou

--- On Sat, 25/7/09, baboucarr Sey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



From: baboucarr Sey <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Where is Lawyer Darbo?
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Saturday, 25 July, 2009, 5:01 PM



Ok that´s your take just remember he one that chose to lead and he never around when we need him to show leader ship.



Cheers

mbye

 
 Let modesty be the rule of  observance.





From: SUNTOU TOURAY <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:54:40 PM
Subject: Re: Where is Lawyer Darbo?






What is the difference between halifa's media engagement and Darboe's legal engagement? Halifa as far it is evident is popular with us online but not with the Gambians on the ground. so in as much he comment on PDOIS media arm, his bullets seems to always be missing the targets. Again, instead of us asking about the where about of Ousainou, we need to ask about our personal roles in waking up Gambians everywhere. "The political landscape is full of thorns" Halifa. so the quietness is not just Ousainou's problem, but a general Gambian problem. Do we speak or stand for the voiceless? do we generally care about the situation on the ground? Where have you been in the past few weeks, months? what comment have you made with regards to the suppression of Gambians?

suntou

--- On Sat, 25/7/09, baboucarr Sey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



From: baboucarr Sey <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:20Re: Where is Lawyer Darbo?
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Saturday, 25 July, 2009, 10:00 AM



The man lets face it he is gone deep deep underground,  he would be around two months before the next general election.



Cheers




Mbye

 
 Let modesty be the rule of  observance.





From: Muhammed Lamin Touray <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:32:24 PM
Subject: Where is Lawyer Darbo?






We are waiting for Lawyer Darbo's take on the issues on the table. What does he think of the 15th annevrsiry of July 22? What is the way forward?

We have heard from Yahya Jammeh and Halifa Sallah; we know their stands.

ML Touray





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