Demba,

Talking about man enough.  You are a joke little twerp.  Your post referred
to me without calling my name so i was only following your cue.  But since
you've named me now.  Let us take from their.  I HAVE CALLED YOU A LIAR AND
HYPOCRITE BEFORE AND IF NECESSARY I WILL DO SO.  Do not worry about that.

Mboge


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> You are not man enough to name names Mr. Mboge are you? You are drowning
> in hate and deception... you might as well prepare because you will hear
> the criticism either you like them or not...  Your records of intolerance
> speaks for itself..
>
> Demba
>
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> It seems some are still wallowing in  their stupid convoluted and
>> perverted delusions they called criticality.  They keep lying to themselves
>> that people calling out the 'enablers' pretending to be 'born-again'
>> saviours are being hyprocritical because their party's policies are being
>> criticised.  It is real pointless to argue with someone who is
>> convinced that his lies are the truth.  Some of us have made it abundantly
>> clear that we are no PDOIS members but since the likes of Mathew Jallow and
>> his little 'flunkies' have no valid arguments they will insist on a lie to
>> make themselves relevant.
>>
>> Well, for me i have seen more acerbic and personalised criticism of
>> Halifa and PDOIS and it does not trouble me in anyway.  I know Halifa
>> and PDOIS are more capable in defending themselves than I will ever be.
>> People however can 'intellectually masturbate'  to their hearts content all
>> they want about PDOIS folk, i care less.  As i am no PDOIS member, never
>> aspired to be one and and never will be one i will  let the hallucinating
>> 'Jukebox' fly by night 'critical journalists' to wallow in their lies
>> and delusions.  Hypocrites and lies we know when we see them and WE WILL
>> CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE WITH EASE. However, i reserve the right never
>> to accept the rubbish and perverted notion of selective gibberish thrown
>> around on the opposition politicians on the ground as some well thought out
>> critical observation.  As these so-called opinionated 'critically minded'
>> lot reserve the right to say anything in the name of whatever, i as well
>> has the right to say that you are lying and you know you are lying.
>> Staying afar in safety and castigating the efforts of the those on the
>> ground fighting the system is cheap and cowardly.
>>
>> The greatest lie ever since the opposition to Jammeh started is the one
>> 'pushed'  around by the 'apologists ' of the former 'enablers'  of the
>> rotten regime in Gambia that certain people are trying stop 'those who
>> worked with Jammeh from joining the opposition ranks'.  This is an
>> undiluted  'FAT LIE' and til eternity i l will refute it.
>>
>> No hogwashing here.
>>
>> Mboge
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> LJD and Yero much respect to you all as always... I wanted to make sure
>>> that this argument is being hijacked and wrap around a common convenient
>>> theme of those who served under the Jammeh regime and termed as
>>> "enablers"...
>>>
>>> Uncle Matthew's larger argument remains valid that none of us can stop
>>> anybody from joining the fight against Jammeh whether they previously
>>> served him or not.. If fact remains that no one needs any of our permission
>>> to fight against impunity whether they are born again or what have you...
>>>
>>> Now those who were called labelled intolerance and hypocritical were not
>>> called so because they condemned the Dr. Jannehs or Dr. Jobe. They were
>>> called intolerant because they came our swinging and calling people all
>>> kinds of names because their party was criticized. I was personally
>>> attacked for criticizing PDOIS and their policies..
>>>
>>> My response here was the those who aspire to lead our country must be
>>> subject to criticism just as they do to Jammeh and his gang everyday... So
>>> let us not mix apples with oranges around a convenience theme for easy
>>> target... *Intolerance any where is intolerance everywhere.. *The old
>>> boys network of being with us or with the enemy is deceptive and
>>> hypocritical... It manifest a narrow mindedness and deception...
>>>
>>> Finally, my personal contention remains that those who insist on their
>>> way or the highway are equally enablers. Those who insist on endless
>>> process and historical footnotes are equally enablers of the political
>>> regime in Gambia... The hypocrisy is unbelievable... How comes Hamat Bah
>>> was being paraded here as an enabler of Jammeh even though he never served
>>> under the Jammeh regime? Do me a favor and just issue one statement being
>>> critical of one party or the other and see how much mud is being thrown at
>>> your face... That is what we will continue to call intolerance and we have
>>> the records to proof it... I repeat...* intolerance anywhere is
>>> intolerance everywhere*... We will not let anyone hide behind some
>>> deceptive argument to buttress their purity here...
>>>
>>> Demba
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> LJD,
>>>>
>>>> The truth will eventually prevail.  When we refused to accept Mathew
>>>> Jallow's and some of the other pretenders rubbish about some former
>>>> 'enablers' of Jammeh being our saviours and what have you, we were called
>>>> intolerant and trying to elbow people out of the opposition ranks.  As i
>>>> said before that is lie, none of us has the intend, power or capacity to
>>>> stop anyone from joining Jammeh but what i will not keep mute about is the
>>>> lie that these people know something we don't know about Jammeh or that
>>>> they were on some subversive mission or something to undermine Jammeh from
>>>> within.  The strange thing is that all these 'born-again' saviours are
>>>> actually Jammeh rejects who most probably if they hadn't been thrown out
>>>> they will be still with the CHILD MURDERER moonlighting as President of the
>>>> Gambia.
>>>>
>>>> I am ignoring the rubbish reasons some of the apologists of these
>>>> people keep casting around especially the nonsensical comparison someone
>>>> brought about OMAR IBN HATAB the companion of our Prophet.  We know Halifa
>>>> Omar IBN Hatab was never a snitch neither an enabler.  He initially refused
>>>> to join ISLAM based on a principled conviction of what was obtained in
>>>> Arabia when the new religion of Islam began spreading.  When he was
>>>> convinced of the message brought by the Prophet of Islam he became one of
>>>> the fierciest defenders of it and never betrayed the trust of anyone.
>>>> Comparing him and his ways with the Jammeh's former enablers is to me
>>>> blasphemous.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Mboge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Yes Mboge, I too thought about Mathew K's motivation, but whatever
>>>>> the driver behind his conversion, I'm pleased he appreciates the
>>>>> contradiction in going after the Professor, and his current enablers, and
>>>>> turning a blind eye to the moral infringements of those who sat and dined
>>>>> at that merciless table less than ten years ago. As they say, better late
>>>>> than never.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just teasing Mathew about apologizing, as I am aware he wont. and
>>>>> there is really no reason to anyway. I'm celebrating nevertheless, and like
>>>>> the sea of its foreign content, time will lay bare Mathew's inspiration for
>>>>> embracing the truth.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LJDarbo
>>>>>
>>>>>   ------------------------------
>>>>>  *From:* Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 April 2013, 1:42
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [G_L] BRILLIANT COMMENTARY FROM MATHEW K JALLOW
>>>>>
>>>>> LJD,
>>>>>
>>>>> I chuckled when i read Mathew's piece on Maafanta earlier.  I thought
>>>>> this is good but why the omission of his friends.  Anyway, no need to
>>>>> apologise to me.  Just wondering what caused this latest epiphany .
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Mboge
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Lamin Darbo <
>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  All
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not in the habit of forwarding material by Mathew K Jallow, but I
>>>>> proudly make an exception on this occasion. Even with his stark
>>>>> omissions, this is a brilliant piece, and please feel free to insert
>>>>> the names that are shouting for inclusion in this Professor Jammeh
>>>>> luminaries list including "... Sarjo Jallow, Nene Macdolle, Fatoumata
>>>>> Tambajang, Nana Grey-Johnson, Bala Garba-Jahumpa and Mbemba Tambedou ..."
>>>>>
>>>>> Will our good brother now do the honorable thing and apologize to M O
>>>>> Mboge, Joe Sambou, and myself for saying the very same thing only months
>>>>> ago, and in the process needlessly incurring his substantial wrath. Mathew
>>>>> has come of age, and I am now willing to consider him for President of the
>>>>> Third Republic.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LJDarbo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *The Gambia: The new mind of a people and the color of betrayal*****
>>>>> * *
>>>>> *By Mathew K Jallow*****
>>>>> ** **
>>>>> To digress from the nastiness of politics for a moment, this focus,
>>>>> instead, on human nature in Gambia, is a fundamental component of the
>>>>> changes in our cultural landscape. This plunge into the complexity of human
>>>>> nature attempts to contextualize the enormous lapses in judgment to which
>>>>> many Gambians have become willing victims. And, this is not in reference to
>>>>> theoretical psychology, but on the facts of our lives that respond to our
>>>>> moral groundings. It is our lived experience, groomed by society’s norms,
>>>>> and distinguish our capacity to rationalize from the other forces in
>>>>> nature; animals. At one critical level, our countrymen and womens’ fickle
>>>>> minds lend themselves to fall into the dreadful entrapment of the promises
>>>>> of power and prestige, but perhaps the most significant motivating factor
>>>>> is the power of economics; the bottom-line. In short, it is purely an issue
>>>>> of self-preservation dictated by a need for political power and economic
>>>>> self-protection, and over the past eighteen years, it has devalued our
>>>>> concepts of society, but even more importantly, our perception of our
>>>>> fellow countrymen and women is hopelessly entangled between the clearly
>>>>> opposing contradictions of moral obligation and our Darwinian primordial
>>>>> instincts for survival. The most recent intense public castigation campaign
>>>>> and moral marginalization of Nana Grey-Johnson, typify the stark division
>>>>> among Gambians; a division explainable primarily by simple environmental
>>>>> factors. I was tongue-tied, of course, during Nana’s ordeal, not because of
>>>>> an innate desire to protect a friend, but rather because of the awareness
>>>>> of how economic conditions at home provide a powerful force for
>>>>> malleability and utter indifference to moral rationality.****
>>>>> ** **
>>>>> Clearly, Nana Grey-Johnson deserved the loud criticisms too, for
>>>>> failing the moral test, but, with that story now behind us, Nana Grey is
>>>>> not unmindful that he is wedged between the dangerous company of Imperial
>>>>> King, Yahya Jammeh and the unforgiving indignation of the vocal Gambian
>>>>> minority. Today, Gambia is in the grip of an intellectual degradation
>>>>> unlike anything Africa has experienced since the seventies, and the
>>>>> customariness with which many Gambians have fallen victims to Imperial
>>>>> King, Yahya Jammeh’s power and the lure of political status is an object of
>>>>> ongoing debate among Gambians. The long list of Gambians deserving case
>>>>> studies to provide empirical evidence in understanding the cruelty of
>>>>> Gambian politics under Imperial King, Yahya Jammeh, include, but is not
>>>>> limited only to; Sarjo Jallow, Nene Macdolle, Fatoumata Tambajang, Nana
>>>>> Grey-Johnson, Bala Garba-Jahumpa and Mbemba Tambedou, all relatives and
>>>>> close friends, among the other eighty cabinet appointments under Yahya
>>>>> Jammeh. But, this failure of moral obligation to Gambians has a religious
>>>>> dimension, further complicating the enormous challenges of moral
>>>>> uprightness. The fact that so many Gambians choose to disregard the failure
>>>>> of leadership under Imperial King, Yahya Jammeh, is itself stunning, but
>>>>> that so many of them can endure the indignities of arrests, tortures and
>>>>> recycleing back into the system, is mind-blowing and absurd. But, what
>>>>> obsesses the Gambian mind most is the calculations of accepting temporary
>>>>> appointment in any position under Yahya Jammeh even while Gambians continue
>>>>> to be murdered, to disappear and to be reduced in their aspirations and
>>>>> limited in their freedoms.****
>>>>> ** **
>>>>> Intellectual uprightness dictates the assumption of moral superiority
>>>>> in our patriotic obligations to our fellow citizens, but the utter failure
>>>>> to live up to that ideal, will compel my friend Nana Grey-Johnson and all
>>>>> the others to endure the cloud of bitterness and indignant distaste likely
>>>>> to hang over their heads in the coming years. That said, the complete
>>>>> collapse of the moral moorings of fellow citizens back home; from the
>>>>> senior cabinet positions, to civil servants and to other levels of society,
>>>>> more than being tantalizing, is slowly reconfiguring the psyche of our
>>>>> people and changing the values inherited for our noble past. And for now,
>>>>> Gambians still disappear; the murders still escalate; prison once an
>>>>> anathema, is now almost a rite of passage; executions still concealed by
>>>>> the darkness of night, and the terror of a people speaks loudly in its
>>>>> silent eloquence. Still, Gambians, from cabinet appointees to senior civil
>>>>> servants and political activists, remain unbothered by the tremendous
>>>>> criminality of the regime, but most specifically, of Imperial King, Yahya
>>>>> Jammeh. The unflattering nature of the regime typify a loss of credibility
>>>>> that borders on illegitimacy and the reduction of an entire society into a
>>>>> permanent underclass signals the saturation our endurance and the
>>>>> inevitable need for political change. But, whether Imperial King, Yahya
>>>>> Jammeh will move out by his own freewill or by the devastating force of
>>>>> cold lead through his brain, is another matter altogether. The suffering
>>>>> people of the Gambia have time on their side. For, even the longest
>>>>> nightmare has its day of freedom, and the Gambia is no different. As it is,
>>>>> the new Gambian mindset lacks the basic tenets of morality, and Nana
>>>>> Grey-Johnson, like other who serve Yahya Jammeh, speaks to that moral
>>>>> deficit and that color of betrayal.****
>>>>> ** **
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