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Jackie, one needs trigger fingers for hunting elk.  Hahaha.

earlier, Jackie Shepherd, wrote:
>Hi Vicki,
>
>At the risk of coming across as a know-it-all, or something like 
>that, my husband had some of the same problems with both his 
>hands.  He had what they call "trigger fingers" which would not 
>allow him to open his hand.  He had to physically open certain 
>fingers with the other hand.  He had surgery on both hands where 
>they stretched and tied tendons in both hands and the operations 
>were completely successful.
>He has full use of both hands now, with only a mild triggering of one thumb.
>
>Currently he is out hunting and they just got his elk.
>
>I'll be praying for you that not only will you receive healing, but 
>that if you must have surgery, it will be completely successful.
>
>Jackie
>
>
>At 08:48 AM 2013-08-02, you wrote:
>>Well, it's kind of weird. My left hand doesn't always want to 
>>close.  It's painful to do so, most of the time. Opening it is a 
>>challenge as well. When I have to use my other hand to open my ring 
>>finger, for example,  it makes this pop noise and sneds a shock 
>>wave of pain to accompany it. My wrist seems to be somewhat unhappy 
>>as well. That's in short why the hand doc visit coming up.
>>
>>Vicki
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Date: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:54 pm
>>Subject: Vicki's hand
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Vic,
>> >
>> > What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so 
>> other's can hear, too.
>> >
>> > Phil.
>> >
>> > How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>> > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >   ----- Original Message -----
>> >   From: Vicki
>> >   To: [log in to unmask]
>> >   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>> >   Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>> >
>> >
>> >   Phil and everybody,
>> >
>> >   Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had 
>> hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know 
>> what you know.  I can't imagine having that much pain though and I 
>> sure will be praying.  I get some living with pain myself as I am 
>> in therapy for a torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped a 
>> great deal and I have exercises to do at home which I am 
>> doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on the 13th and 
>> praying no surgery to be necessary, and everything to be returned 
>> to manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will be 
>> praying that for you too.
>> >
>> >   Vicki
>> >
>> >
>> >   .
>> >     ----- Original Message -----
>> >     From: Phil Scovell
>> >     To: [log in to unmask]
>> >     Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>> >     Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>> >
>> >
>> >     First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>> >
>> >     My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that 
>> encouraging today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus 
>> the physical tests they did, revealed my lower back is 
>> telescoping, that is, the vertebras are all pressing downward.  As 
>> they  do, they are pressuring the disks which in turn are 
>> spreading out, slipping to the sides, and coming in contact with 
>> nerves which creates the pain in all the various locations.  The 
>> pain changes from the lower back, into my hips, back of my legs, 
>> and all the way down to my ankles.  Each back episode, creates 
>> pain in multiple places but not the same places each and every 
>> time.  Also, the pain level my be from mild to severe.  They do 
>> not recommend surgery because it would take a number of fusions of 
>> the vertebras to repair the damage that is ongoing.  They are 
>> recommending physical therapy in order to learn ways of exercising 
>> to the point the vertebras pull back from each other further and 
>> thus creating less pressure on the disks.  In short, learn to live 
>> with it.  I was hoping it would be a single set of vertebra that 
>> could be fused but that isn't the case.  The pain episodes will 
>> continue but hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the 
>> exercises can be continued at home and should help keep things in 
>> better shape; maybe.  At some point, if the PT is helping, I can 
>> go back and get shots in different places of my lower back to help 
>> with pain management, if it gets unbearable, that is, but only 
>> time will tell.  Learning to live with pain is going to be the 
>> name of the game.  At least now I know.  Certainly not as 
>> encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is better than not knowing.
>> >
>> >     Phil.
>> >
>> >     Satan Has A God Complex
>> >     www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>> >
>> > Vic,
>> >
>> > What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so 
>> other's can hear, too.
>> >
>> > Phil.
>> >
>> > How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>> > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Vicki
>> > To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>> >
>> >
>> > Phil and everybody,
>> >
>> > Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had 
>> hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know 
>> what you know.  I can't imagine having that much pain though and I 
>> sure will be praying.  I get some living with pain myself as I am 
>> in therapy for a torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped a 
>> great deal and I have exercises to do at home which I am 
>> doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on the 13th and 
>> praying no surgery to be necessary, and everything to be returned 
>> to manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will be 
>> praying that for you too.
>> >
>> > Vicki
>> >
>> >
>> > .
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Phil Scovell
>> > To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>> > Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>> >
>> >
>> > First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>> >
>> > My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging 
>> today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical 
>> tests they did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, 
>> the vertebras are all pressing downward.  As they  do, they are 
>> pressuring the disks which in turn are spreading out, slipping to 
>> the sides, and coming in contact with nerves which creates the 
>> pain in all the various locations.  The pain changes from the 
>> lower back, into my hips, back of my legs, and all the way down to 
>> my ankles.  Each back episode, creates pain in multiple places but 
>> not the same places each and every time.  Also, the pain level my 
>> be from mild to severe.  They do not recommend surgery because it 
>> would take a number of fusions of the vertebras to repair the 
>> damage that is ongoing.  They are recommending physical therapy in 
>> order to learn ways of exercising to the point the vertebras pull 
>> back from each other further and thus creating less pressure on 
>> the disks.  In short, learn to live with it.  I was hoping it 
>> would be a single set of vertebra that could be fused but that 
>> isn't the case.  The pain episodes will continue but hopefully, 
>> with the PT, not as often and the exercises can be continued at 
>> home and should help keep things in better shape; maybe.  At some 
>> point, if the PT is helping, I can go back and get shots in 
>> different places of my lower back to help with pain management, if 
>> it gets unbearable, that is, but only time will tell.  Learning to 
>> live with pain is going to be the name of the game.  At least now 
>> I know.  Certainly not as encouraging as I would have hoped but 
>> knowing is better than not knowing.
>> >
>> > Phil.
>> >
>> > Satan Has A God Complex
>> > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>
>John

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