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Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
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It is not a secret in the Bible. 

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> On Jul 23, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Angel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> The Roman Catholic Church, and I say this to differentiate its teaching from that of the eastern orthodox Catholic Church, who as you know separated from the Roman Church in the fourth century, created Limbo, to try to explain where these precious souls went.  Limbo was just a place without express explanation.  Now, however, that belief is not held by the Roman Church.  As these souls  hadn't been baptized, and were still tainted by Adam's sin.  This belief has never been held by either the Coptic Christians nor the eastern orthodox Christians.  My personal belief is:  
> There are things we humans aren't meant to know, and what happens to souls, and those who have never experienced the grand and wonderful gospel of Jesus Christ will always remain a secret shared by them and 
> God.  To assume otherwise is to risk falling in to the sin of pride.  Now, this is my opinion only.   
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Vinny Samarco
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [DB-Review] Heaven is for real: a little boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back DB72633
> 
> Hi,
>     I have read the book twice (by the way it is on bard).
>     There are lots of things the Lord isn’t going to tell us yet.  Angel, correct me if I am wrong, but when I was young and used to be a catholic, I was taught that all the children who were unborn, or who died before  they reached the age of reason, all these went to a place called limbo, but eventually went to heaven? 
>     The other thing I have heard, is that many many woman who have had abortions have suffered greatly from dreams and nightmares about their aborted child.
>     Do any of you remember the Frank Peretti audio drama called Tillie?  It was about a woman who kept dreaming about her aborted daughter, and how God used it to brings things to light, and her to repentance—if I remember correctly.
>   The only thing we can know from scripture is in Matthew 18-10 which says “Take heed that you despise not one of these  little ones; for I say unto you, that in heaven their angels do always behold  the face of my father which is in heaven.
> Vinny
>    
>  
> From: Pat Ferguson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 11:35 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [DB-Review] Heaven is for real: a little boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back DB72633
>  
> I hope others will chime in here, Brad, Phil, Grant! Help, Please!
> 
> Isn't a Miss-Carriage not the fault of the Mother?
> 
> Why wouldn't the Fetus  of little ones who weren't born not go to Heaven?
> 
> Little ones are not responsible for what happened to them before they were born!
> 
> Doesn't the body and the Soul of a Fetus go to Heaven?
> 
> God loves them, and He lovingly accepts them into His Kingdom. He welcomes them with Open Arms!
> 
> That's why I believe that the events in this book, took place. I believe in the fact that 
> Anyone, no matter who they are can have a near-death experience and see Jesus!
> 
> I have never seen anything in the Bible about Purgatory!
> 
>> Thanks much.
>> 
>> Many Blessings,
>> 
>> Pat Ferguson
>> "I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
> 
> At 10:50 AM 7/23/2014, you wrote:
>> My question is this:  Is it we or is it our souls which resides either in heaven hell or purgatory.  I say it is our souls which reside in those places.  If God knows ahead of time, which he does.  Because he knows all things past present and future.  He knows whether a fetus will be spontaneously aborted or will be murdered by man himself.  If a fetus is spontaneously aborted, as I said previously, it is due to some sort of malformation in the womb.  Which causes that fetus not to be viable outside the womb.  I Ask:  What purpose would there be for a soul to be implanted in a fetus without possibility of viability outside the womb?  If you can't answer this question:  How can you have faith the child which supposedly saw heaven actually did see heaven.  Or just wanted to run a scam on gullible people to make money from the sale of books?----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Pat Ferguson 
>> To: [log in to unmask] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 11:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DB-Review] Heaven is for real: a little boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back DB72633
>> 
>> Angel,
>> 
>> I believe that all Unborn Babies are in Heaven! I have no doubt about that, either.
>> 
>> I would hope most Christians do believe that. <smile>
>> 
>> Thanks much.
>> 
>> Many Blessings,
>> 
>> Pat Ferguson
>> "I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 10:16 AM 7/23/2014, you wrote:
>>> This is most interesting.  I never read the book.  But, it is curious to know how he knew the fetus he saw was his miscarried sister?  Did he have some sort of spirit guide explaining all this to him?  If so, how can we be sure the spirit guide was an angelic one?  It also leads to questions such          as:  When a mother suffers a spontaneous abortion, it usually means the fetus isn't able to survive out side the womb.  Due to some sort of abnormality begun within the womb.  Knowing this, and that the fetus would be aborted naturally, why would, and whether a soul would even be implanted in such a fetus from the outset.  If not, there would be nothing to see in heaven.  If such isn't the case, the entire experience might be questioned.  It is also interesting willingness to believe isn't questioned with the same skepticism as things about which there is less willingness to believe.   
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Pat Ferguson
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 10:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [DB-Review] Heaven is for real: a little boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back DB72633
>>> He saw his Sister which was the little Baby that was Miss-carried.            He new nothing about that Miss-Carriage, either.
>>> Thanks much.
>>> Many Blessings,
>>> Pat Ferguson
>>> "I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me."            Phillippians 4:13.
>>> At 11:24 PM 7/22/2014, you wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I read the book in one night. The thing I thought was weird. Is that he only seen the Dads side of the family. 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Jul 23, 2014, at 12:28 AM, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask] > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Here is what I wrong on the DB Review book reading list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Phil Scovell via DB-Review
>>>>> To: DB-Review List                
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:25 PM
>>>>> Subject: [DB-Review] Heaven is for real: a little boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back DB72633
>>>>> 
>>>>> Warning; warning. If you are a Christian, read this book. If you are not a Christian, read this book. If you believe there is a God, read this book. If you believe there is no God, read this book, then decide. Even if you deny the living existents of a literal demonic persona called Satan, I dare you to read this little book. If you are thinking I'm preaching, read the book anyway.  It isn't long, I read it in one sitting, but I personally bet some won't read this book because they are afraid it just might be for real after taught by a 4 year old boy.  It is either the biggest lie you've ever read or it is the truth. Come on! Read it and let me know what you think. It is now a movie and on DVD as well.  It won't hurt you but it will make you stop and think.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Heaven is for real: a little boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back DB72633
>>>>>         Burpo, Todd; Vincent, Lynn. Reading time: 4 hours, 50 minutes.
>>>>> Read by Andy Pyle.
>>>>> Inspirational
>>>>> Bestsellers
>>>>> Burpo, a pastor in Nebraska, relates the 2003 experiences reported by his three-year-old son Colton, who believes that during an emergency appendectomy he died, went to heaven, and returned to life. Colton describes seeing Jesus, angels, and deceased relatives. Bestseller. 2010.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Thanks much.
>>>> Many Blessings,
>>>> Pat Ferguson
>>>> "I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
>> 


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