Pretty insightful preacher hubby you got there. Amazing how much we can 
draw out time after time after time.

Brad



At 07:28 PM 2/11/2007, you wrote:

>Phil & Brad,
>         Greg's sermon was about the Tower of Babel  today.  Something 
> about the story that I had never noticed before had to do with the 
> materials used.  When God told His people to build an altar, and later 
> the temple, they were to always use stones and no tools were to be used 
> on the sight.  the Tower of Babel was built with inferior, man made 
> materials of brick and tar.  Greg used that example to illustrate what 
> our ideas and drives are like when we just want to do things our own way 
> and not seek God's will in the planning.  "Bingo!"
>Kathy
>
>
>
>
>At 02:46 PM 2/11/2007, you wrote:
>>I noticed that in one of the resources but that is a good point, too.  Had
>>to be a weird strange period of time in those days.  I wonder how high the
>>tower of Babel got before God came down and scrambled the language?
>>
>>Phil.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> > Phil,
>> >
>> > Could be because he was Ham's kid. Noah's grandson. Ham was the one who
>> > peaked at Noah while he was naked and drunk and then told his brothers who
>> > then went in walking backwards to cover Noah's indecency up. Noah found
>>out
>> > what happened and God cursed Ham and his descendents... see below the
>> > Nimrod reference here...
>> >
>> >  From Nelson's Bible Dictionary:
>> >
>> > NIMROD
>> > NIMROD
>> > [NIM rahd] (meaning unknown)-a son of Cush and grandson of Ham, the
>> > youngest son of Noah (Gen 10:8-12; 1 Chron 1:10). Nimrod was a "mighty one
>> > on the earth"-a skilled hunterwarrior who became a powerful king. He is
>>the
>> > first mighty hero mentioned in the Bible.
>> > The principal cities of Nimrod's Mesopotamian kingdom were "Babel,
>>Babylon,
>> > Erech, Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar" (Gen 10:10). From the
>>land
>> > of Babylon he went to Assyria, where he built Nineveh and other cities
>>(Gen
>> > 10:11). In Mic 5:6 Assyria is called "the land of Nimrod."
>> > The origin and meaning of the name Nimrod is uncertain, but it is doubtful
>> > that it is Hebrew. It is probably Mesopotamian, originating from the
>> > Akkadian (northern Babylonian) god of war and hunting, Ninurta, who was
>> > called "the Arrow, the mighty hero."
>> >
>> > HAM
>> > HAM
>> > [hamm] (hot)-the name of a person and two places in the Old Testament:
>> > 1. The youngest of Noah's three sons (Gen 5:32). Ham, along with the rest
>> > of Noah's household, was saved from the great Flood by entering the ark
>> > (Gen 7:7). After the waters went down and Noah's household left the ark,
>> > Ham found his father, naked and drunk, asleep in his tent. Ham told his
>> > brothers, Shem and Japheth, who covered their father without looking on
>>his
>> > nakedness. Noah was furious because Ham had seen him naked, and he placed
>>a
>> > curse on Ham and his descendants. The offspring of Ham were to serve the
>> > descendants of Shem and Japheth (Gen 9:21-27).
>> > Ham had four sons: Cush, Mizraim, Put and Canaan (Gen 10:6). The
>> > descendants of these four are generally thought of as immoral and evil.
>>The
>> > tribe of Mizraim settled in Egypt, while the tribes of Cush and Put
>>settled
>> > in other parts of Africa. The tribe of Canaan populated Phoenicia and
>> > Palestine.
>> > 2. A city east of the Jordan River during the time of Abraham. It was
>> > attacked by Chedorlaomer and other allied kings (Gen 14:5). The modern
>>city
>> > of Ham lies six kilometers (four miles) south of Irbid.
>> > (from Nelson's Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Copyright (c)1986, Thomas
>> > Nelson Publishers)
>> >
>> >
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