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Yep. That'd do it. I suppose one could interrupt her and say "Oh miss? 
Would you like me to ask him for you?" Then sit there staring off into 
space for a couple seconds and say... "I asked him and he'll have a iced 
tea, unsweetened and a slice of lemon in it."

Brad



At 12:02 PM 2/12/2007, you wrote:

>The other way I answer that is to say, "She wants a diet pepse."  Usually 
>that gets the point across.
>
>
>
>JulieMelton
>visit me at
>www.heart-and-music.com
>or subscribe to my podcast at
>http://feed.feedburner.com/hmradio
>Keep smiling!
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: MV <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: A New Twist on Handling Sightlings; Greg Brayton Sent This
>>Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:40:41 -0600
>>
>>That's  probably why she asked me. That is pretty acceptable, it just 
>>took me by surprise for some reason. I don't take to well to folks asking 
>>my wife "What does he want  to drink?" lol. They usually get the 
>>answer... "Ask him, he's sitting right there" lol.
>>
>>Brad
>>At 08:22 PM 2/10/2007, you wrote:
>>
>>>Although I have them cut my meat fr me and bring it out for me.  Not 
>>>that I can't, but it's cumbersome to me at times to have to cut it in public.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:16 PM
>>>Subject: Re: A New Twist on Handling Sightlings; Greg Brayton Sent This
>>>
>>>
>>>>I use to have a worship/music leader who was very cool about my blindness,
>>>>and just treated me like anyone else and I think found it odd others
>>>>sometimes didn't. contrary to that, I use to have a fellow worship team
>>>>member sort of act a little higher than I, we were both guitar
>>>>pickers/singers, although he led services at this church sometimes and I
>>>>"only" did special music hahaha. He'd always say stuff like "Hi Brad! This
>>>>is Reese talking!" Ummm yah Hi Reese, was my usual reply.One day I was
>>>>sitting waiting for service to start and I must have been less patient and
>>>>he said something to me and forgot to do his trumpeting identification
>>>>announcement.  I acknowledged him by name and whatever else was needed to
>>>>answer him. He said "Wow!" Hahaha, you're pretty good with voices aren't
>>>>you?" I said... "Yeah. Well, pretty much, although I have trouble doing
>>>>John Wayne sometimes!" He didn't say a word, but my music director was
>>>>walking by about the time I smarted off and he got a big chuckle out of
>>>>that. For the most part, I do understand folks. We get pelted at times with
>>>>this stuff and it is mostly from different people so I try to exercise
>>>>patience. but when it is from the same people and you've proven you are not
>>>>an idiot, I will tend to turn on the lessons *smile*. I had a waitress ask
>>>>if I wanted my meat cut up for me one day. I looked a bit dumbfounded but
>>>>she must have gotten that from someone asking I don't know if she'd thought
>>>>of that on her own.
>>>>Mime-Version: 1.0
>>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; 
>>>>x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2DF85321
>>>>
>>>>Brad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 07:39 PM 2/10/2007, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Agreed John.  However, it's kind of fun to look at and osme of them are
>>>>>not bad.
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:46 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: A New Twist on Handling Sightlings; Greg Brayton Sent This
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Although I understand the humor and frustrations, I don't agree wit the
>>>>>>approach.  Our speech should always be with grace, seasoned with salt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>earlier, JULIE MELTON, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Lyn,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hahahahahahahahah! I love it!  WHen dealing with sighted folks, a little
>>>>>>>humor often helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>JulieMelton
>>>>>>>visit me at
>>>>>>>www.heart-and-music.com
>>>>>>>or subscribe to my podcast at
>>>>>>>http://feed.feedburner.com/hmradio
>>>>>>>Keep smiling!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>From: Lyn Latham <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>Reply-To: The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>Subject: A New Twist on Handling Sightlings; Greg Brayton Sent This
>>>>>>>>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:06:18 -0500
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hey, I wanted to share this with all of you.  It's fantastic.  If
>>>>>>>>anyone knows either Greg Braton or Duncan Holmes, you can see this
>>>>>>>>being something they would know about.  Have fun.
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: Duncan Holmes
>>>>>>>>To: gil tolan
>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:13 AM
>>>>>>>>Subject: A New Twist on Handling Sightlings; Greg Brayton Sent This
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I really like this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > I'm blind, but there's no need to talk to my dog
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > By IAN HAMILTON
>>>>>>>> > The Herald, Scotland (UK), February 06, 2007
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I'm utterly exhausted with people constantly asking how I became >
>>>>>>>>blind.
>>>>>>>> > Considering that I'm 42, and blind since birth, it could be
>>>>>>>>imagined > that
>>>>>>>> > by
>>>>>>>> > now I would be familiar with this question.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On the contrary, if anything I'm getting more impatient with the
>>>>>>>>same > old
>>>>>>>> > questions day after day. "Have you been blind all your life?" To
>>>>>>>>this > I
>>>>>>>> > always respond: "Not yet".
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > "Your hearing must be so much better than mine?" Answer: "Pardon?" >
>>>>>>>>"That's
>>>>>>>> > a
>>>>>>>> > lovely Labrador you have there." Answer: "Labrador? My dog is a >
>>>>>>>>Shepherd."
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Not original answers, but they always make me and Moss, my black >
>>>>>>>>Labrador,
>>>>>>>> > chuckle.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > It always happens when I'm trapped and unable to escape. When 
>>>>>>>> I'm on > a
>>>>>>>> > bus,
>>>>>>>> > train or taxi. People are naturally curious; I understand this.
>>>>>>>>But > they
>>>>>>>> > can't resist going that little bit too far if you show any 
>>>>>>>> glimpse > of
>>>>>>>> > being
>>>>>>>> > generous with your responses.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > "Couldn't you get an operation to get your sight back?" Answer: 
>>>>>>>> "No! > I
>>>>>>>> > like
>>>>>>>> > walking into bus stops."
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > "My auntie was blind. She had to stay in bed. You're so brave
>>>>>>>>going > out
>>>>>>>> > and
>>>>>>>> > about." Staying in bed. Umm, now there's an idea. That was one smart
>>>>>>>> > auntie.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > "How do you find your mouth when you eat?" Answer: "In the same
>>>>>>>>way > you
>>>>>>>> > find
>>>>>>>> > your bum when you wipe it."
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > "If I was blind I would have to kill myself." Answer: "Why wait?"
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > These normal questions are the reason I've come up with a
>>>>>>>>fantastic > plan.
>>>>>>>> > For years, various organisations have been providing Blind Awareness
>>>>>>>> > Workshops. In fact, I've had to deliver a few. These workshops
>>>>>>>>show > the
>>>>>>>> > public how they should respond if they encounter a blind person. >
>>>>>>>>Topics
>>>>>>>> > such
>>>>>>>> > as, don't go up and shout at blind people, they are not deaf.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > ASK, if they want to cross the road? DON'T drag them across the
>>>>>>>>road > by
>>>>>>>> > the
>>>>>>>> > ears. When you are giving directions, DON'T waggle your finger 
>>>>>>>> in > some
>>>>>>>> > vague
>>>>>>>> > direction and say: "It's just over there next to the post office.
>>>>>>>>SEE, > you
>>>>>>>> > can't miss it." Wanna bet?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Many years ago I was waiting for a bus in Union Street in Glasgow, >
>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>> > two
>>>>>>>> > little old ladies decided to lift me, from behind, on to the 
>>>>>>>> bus. > They
>>>>>>>> > proceeded to push, heave and shove me. Now, I know I'm not known
>>>>>>>>for > my
>>>>>>>> > speed, but I was heading in the right direction of the door under
>>>>>>>>my > own
>>>>>>>> > propulsion. You won't be surprised to hear that they failed > 
>>>>>>>> miserably.
>>>>>>>> > After
>>>>>>>> > all, I'm 13 stone and 6ft. To get me safely aboard they caused > 
>>>>>>>> mayhem:
>>>>>>>> > pushing mothers and toddlers aside to get to their prey. The
>>>>>>>>driver > had to
>>>>>>>> > leave his cab to untangle buggies, shopping and various limbs and >
>>>>>>>>walking
>>>>>>>> > sticks.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I wonder if the ladies survived that day. I know I'm scared.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I've decided to call my new training course The Blind Person's
>>>>>>>>Guide > to
>>>>>>>> > the
>>>>>>>> > General Public. Topics such as dealing with people who are giving
>>>>>>>> > directions
>>>>>>>> > to my dog while ignoring me. This did happen in Glasgow's Central >
>>>>>>>>Station
>>>>>>>> > by
>>>>>>>> > a member of the railway police. I couldn't believe it. Was he 
>>>>>>>> having > a
>>>>>>>> > laugh? No, he really was under the misapprehension that my dog
>>>>>>>>knew > what
>>>>>>>> > he
>>>>>>>> > was on about. Not once did he refer to me at all. Bizarre behaviour!
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > My course will teach blind people how to cope when faced with this >
>>>>>>>>kind of
>>>>>>>> > attitude. When people come up and say: "You are a lovely boy" - when
>>>>>>>> > talking
>>>>>>>> > to the dog. Say, "Thank you very much but I'm spoken for."
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Another tip is always to have a pair of headphones in your pocket.
>>>>>>>>It > is
>>>>>>>> > awful to be trapped on a train with someone going through all
>>>>>>>>their > fears
>>>>>>>> > and traumas about being blind. Just say that you are going to
>>>>>>>>listen > to an
>>>>>>>> > audio book. Pop on the headphones and put the jack in your pocket. >
>>>>>>>>They'll
>>>>>>>> > never know the difference.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > When you get caught by someone asking silly questions, the answer
>>>>>>>>is > to
>>>>>>>> > turn
>>>>>>>> > the conversation round at the first opportunity. The one main >
>>>>>>>>conversation
>>>>>>>> > that everyone likes to talk about is themselves.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Now this doesn't just apply to us blindies - the technique can be
>>>>>>>>used > by
>>>>>>>> > everyone. Let me give you an example. I was travelling on the > 
>>>>>>>> Glasgow
>>>>>>>> > Underground. Sitting opposite was a woman who decided to
>>>>>>>>interrogate > me
>>>>>>>> > about my then German Shepherd guide dog. "What's its name?" The >
>>>>>>>>following
>>>>>>>> > questions took that kind of line. Then she started to get a little >
>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>> > probing. "So how did you lose your sight?"
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Now in the correct circumstance that is a perfectly reasonable >
>>>>>>>>question.
>>>>>>>> > However, not on the underground when surrounded by ear-wigging >
>>>>>>>>passengers.
>>>>>>>> > I
>>>>>>>> > had a number of options. One is telling her to mind her own
>>>>>>>>business > (or
>>>>>>>> > words to that effect). I took a different tack. This was the first >
>>>>>>>>time I
>>>>>>>> > had put the technique into action.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > It worked a treat.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I ignored her question. Then I asked her some questions of my own, >
>>>>>>>>such
>>>>>>>> > as,
>>>>>>>> > "Where are you off to today?". By the time she got off three stops >
>>>>>>>>later,
>>>>>>>> > I
>>>>>>>> > knew that she had just broken up with her boyfriend, she was
>>>>>>>>looking > for a
>>>>>>>> > flat and was thinking of moving south again! But she left the tube >
>>>>>>>>feeling
>>>>>>>> > happy. I hadn't been rude, and the only thing she found out about
>>>>>>>>me > was
>>>>>>>> > the
>>>>>>>> > name and age of my dog.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > A good result, I would say. I'm not a reporter for nothing.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Ian Hamilton reports on disability issues for BBC Scotland.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/features/display.var.1173810.0.0.php
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>2/7/2007 3:33 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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