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Lots of GREAT information follows. Thank you all so much!

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I think many other problems, as in the yeast problem, are due to the
malabsorption suffered by celiacs who remain undiagnosed.  The body is
totally out of balance, the immune system is not working properly, and this
leaves the body subject to a host of other ills.... all of which cloud the
issue of getting a proper diagnosis for celiac, compounded by the lack of
knowledge of U.S. docs.  Just my personal theory ...


When my son was diagnosed 13years ago, they gave me a huge list of no no's
and possible no's. In the middle were things many, but not all can not have.
One is yeast. My son can not tolerate it as well. I also with a problem with
yeast. i do not know if there is a direct correlation with me or Celiac.
Just  remember it is like lactose and soy intolerant. If your Celiac, don't
be surprised, though just becauseyou are Celiac does not mean you
automatically are.


I suspect there is a connection, at least in my case, between the celiac and
gluten and have suspected so for some time. When I eat gluten or dairy or
yeast foods, in fact, I soon have genital itching and irritation and will
eventually have a vaginal yeast infection.


There is a book by Lloybnd Rosenvold, M.D., called "Can A Gluten-Free Diet
Help? How?" and he has a chapter devoted to what he thinks are the
connections between gluten and candida. Basically he believes that his
patients throughout the years who had unremitting yeast problems were people
who had Celiac Disease. He said that the intestines were damaged as a result
of the Celiac and this leaves a fertile place for yeast and bacteria, etc.
to flourish.


I have and am getting rid of a bad bacteria colony in
my intestines.  According to a comprehensive digestive
test that I took, I have two bad bacteria (Mucoid E.
coli and something else I can't remember).  I am also
low on two good bacteria (can't remember names off
hand).  I am actually on vacation, so I am not at my
home to reference the test.  Anyway, my chiropractor
said I could also have a mold or fungus colony as well
since the digestive test did not test for this.

The chiropractor put me on some herbs, Parex Intensive
Care by Metagenics to kill off the bad bacteria,
Replete and HMF Forte (not sure of the manufacturing
company) to reintroduce good bacteria, and vascuzyme
to help dissolve the mucous made by mucoid E. coli to
protect itself.

Everyweek, I increased the doseage of the Parex
Intensive Care until I was taking 7 pills a day.  Each
time, I increased my doseage, I experience greater
"fuzzy mindedness" supposedly caused by the bad
bacteria dieoff.  Then it would get better until I
increased my doseage again.  I was to do this for
three months.  I am now in my last month.  At this
point, I am feeling much better.  I have no fuzzy
mindedness and I have more energy.

Last of all, just FYI, I have never been diagnosed
celiac since I went gluten free before antibody
testing.  However, being gluten free for the last five
months had made me feel much better.  Also, I took the
gene test, and I have two of genes that can cause
celiac.  So I feel that the odds are pretty good that
I have celiac.


First, look up in the Merck Manual for reasons for damaged villi, and you
will see both gluten and parasites (read "including yeast"). So, you could
have both problems.

Second, my sister-in-law did get a doctor to treat her for yeast, and felt
immediately better, but was still not able to include any wheat or milk into
her diet.

So, other things I've read will say that eating things like wheat and sugar
actually decrease the cells that are the ones that will scavenge the gut for
bad bacteria, etc.  I think they are all related, but I'm not sure how.
Every diet for getting rid of yeast has one giving up wheat.  Whether this
happens in everybody or only those with an allergy to wheat, I haven't read.
I used to think that eating sugar caused a rise in the population of yeast
in my gut (and perhaps it used to), but that it doesn't appear to bother me
at all, now that I've eaten virtually GF for 4 years, now.


I picked this book up in a health food store some years ago and I think it
is out of print. It isn't a very scientific piece of work but I appreciated
somebody spending some time with their theories about Celiac connections and
I suspect that he is quite correct. I find some trouble with the medical
community about yeast. They seem not to pay much attention to it in my
experience and hesitate to treat it carefully. I have had yeast infections
for thirty years and really feel that I  need maintenance treatment forever
but I can't seem to find a doctor who will prescribe what I think I need. It
is a terrible nuisance. Add this to the fact that I can't find a doctor who
knows anything very helpful about Celiac and I find myself constantly
frustrated because I think that the most significant thing about my health
is involved around Celiac disease.


I also was being treated for candida, then my doctor said I was
gluten intolerant.I have a feeling these doctors don't have a clue on what
is wrong with us.


If you find an answer, please let me know because I have both of those
sensitivities.  I thought I was the only one because it was never discussed
before.


Yep, same path my friend. I don't know if anything has been proven
conclusively in my case though since my antibody test is negative.

I am celiac and have had ongoing problems with yeast infections.

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