Ken, Mike, et al,
But how much would the deficit have increased without the tax cuts under
Bush? And how many of us on the list have been able to directly benefit
from those cuts? The reason I say "directly benefit," is that I don't
want to start a thread on trickle down economics. Even Reagan and Bush
Senior (President Daddy) backed away from that.
Under Bill Clinton, we had budget surpluses, and now with Dubya, we have
the largest annual deficits ever, even with the massive cuts to social
programs. Granted, part of that is due to the hurricanes, and the war,
both of which, IMO, were, and continue to be, terribly mishandled. To
push to make the tax cuts permanent during a time of war is
irresponsible, and flies in the face of the "paygo" (pay as you go)
budgetary process. The earliest reference I can find to PAYGO is in an
article about the 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act, which means
that it was most likely instituted under Bush Senior, if not before.
Yesterday I heard a statement by Secretary of State Rice about Iran,
which sounded eerily similar to the "saber rattling" that went on before
the start of military operations in Iraq. I agree that permitting Iran
to develop nuclear weapons capabilities is not a good idea, but the
thought of entering another military conflict when there are potential
diplomatic options still to be explored is frightening. This is all the
more disturbing when Iran is the piece of real estate that would link
Afghanistan and Iraq, where there is a current US combat presence.
Kendall
An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's redundant!)
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
-----Original Message-----
From: ken barber [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:52 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: dental question
we are spending more money than ever before on
education and we are getting nothing for it. even
without the war, the deficiet would be going up.
i am afraid that most of the problems we have,
throwing money at it will not necessarily fix the
problems. we need to think carfully before spendimg.
how many mobile homes are sitting rotting in arkansas
instead of being moved on into the katrina area
becouse there is some reg about not putting them in a
flood area. those cruise ships etc. just not very well
thought out.
the war on drugs is a waste.
it isboth parties. whoever is in is spending too much.
right now its the gop, next it may be the dems, but,
nothing ever changes, the money keeps on going down
rat holes while legitimate needs don't get met.
bush is spending too much now, hillery will spend too
much when she gets there. its like why bother voting.
theres no difference.
--- Magenta Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> The president is creating a tremendous debt that all
> our kids will inherit.
> I think it's quite clear that whoever is in office,
> left, right or center,
> will spend money on whatever their cause is. we need
> to be spending money
> for education, health care for elderly and PWD,
> rebuilding the towns that
> got hit by katrina. I think it's safe to say that
> what is going on in Iraq,
> needs to be done by the Iraqis, not by American
> troops.
>
> Mag
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> > [Original Message]
> > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 3/23/2006 7:56:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: dental question
> >
> > I THINK OTHER THINGS ARE DOING THEIR PART (opps,
> caps)
> > on the budget. for sure the spending is outof
> sight.
> > and i am not mad at all.
> >
> >
> > --- Mike Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank the DUBYA for that! (I know, I know, Ken
> will
> > > be mad at me. I'm
> > > sorry, Ken, but I just think the war in Iraq is
> > > eating up the budget.)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > > Anthony Arnold
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:35 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: dental question
> > >
> > > I'm currently seen by a local dentist, who tries
> his
> > > very best to clean my
> > > teeth, but he's unable to get x-rays and he
> doesn't
> > > have OR privileges, it
> > > isn't that he isn't willing to, but I think cost
> > > factors may apply. For a
> > > couple of years, we had a arrangement with the
> > > residency program through the
> > > Dental School at the University of Minnesota,
> but
> > > due to state budget cuts
> > > they had to discontinue that division of the
> school,
> > > and I don't understand
> > > why they couldn't just transfer the patients
> over to
> > > the regular dental
> > > school. The state was saying they weren't
> making
> > > enough money to keep the
> > > division operational, but yet the staff was
> saying
> > > it wasn't true.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Anthony
> > > Visit my website at www.anthonyarnold.net
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > > Deri James
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:33 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: dental question
> > >
> > > On Thursday 23 Mar 2006 20:10, Anthony Arnold
> wrote:
> > > > Friends,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For sometime, I have wanted to throw out this
> > > question, but I have a gag
> > > > reflex, which causes the dentist to have to
> put me
> > > under for any dental
> > > > work, and I'm just wondering if this is common
> for
> > > adults with cerebral
> > > > palsy? Another problem I'm experiencing due
> to
> > > the licensing for
> > > dentists,
> > > > there are very few of them willing to travel
> to
> > > the OR to conduct work?
> > > > Has anyone experienced this also?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Anthony
> > > >
> > > > Visit my website at
> > > <http://www.anthonyarnold.net>
> www.anthonyarnold.net
> > >
> > > Hi Anthony,
> > >
> > > I used to have a General Anaesthetic for dental
> > > work, but I found a dentist
> > > brave enough to give it a go without, she can
> tell
> > > when I'm going to gag and
> > >
> > > pauses slightly until it passes. I try to phase
> out
> > > the brain while in the
> > > chair, its a really weird feeling.
> > >
> > > Before I found this dentist I used to get
> referred
> > > to Dental teaching
> > > hospitals, but you tend to find they're a bit
> too
> > > keen to do just a bit more
> > >
> > > work while you're out cold!!
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Deri
> > >
> >
> >
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