the only difference that i see is that in vietnam the leadership of this
country did not let the military win. i was alive and cognazent in that
time. i tried to volunteer. for vietnam i mean.

-----Original Message-----
From: K. Salkin
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: 2/18/2003 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: War with Iraq

I think my problem is that I can see both sides. I lean towards not
going to
war but I can sort of see the rationale for doing it.  But I don't think
we're going to solve anything either way.  By waging war against Iraq,
we'll
be in the same position we were back in the 1960s with Vietnam, at a
huge
cost.  On the other hand if nothing is done, Saddam will keep on doing
what
he has been doing for the past two decades and nothing will be solved
either.  It's a lose-lose situation.

Kat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barber, Kenneth L." <[log in to unmask]>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: War with Iraq


> you guys understand that i am not trying to make a case for war. i am
just
> stateing facts that i think exist. i have been looking at the protest
on
tv.
> i don't see as many signs expressing much more than anti bush instead
of
pro
> peace.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: K. Salkin
> To: [log in to unmask]: 2/17/2003 10:35 AM
> Subject: Re: War with Iraq
>
> That's why I don't really have respect for those who say they know
what
> it's
> like to be in battle and protest on that ground.  No one really knows
> what
> it's like unless you've been there. My brother-in-law was in Vietnam
and
> is
> as much against war as anyone I've met but he will not speak up
against
> it
> out of loyalty to his fellow soldiers and I respect that.
>
> I also agree that we have acted with remarkable restraint towards Iraq
> and
> North Korea but I am afraid if we don't let Bush know of our
opposition,
> he
> will have free rein and the checks and balances in our government will
> not
> work in this case.  However I am willing to admit he does seem willing
> to
> wait for the UN to pass a resolution before taking any action.
However
> even
> the UN seems to be dragging its feet and so does the EU.  I only wish
> someone would come to any sort of resolution so we can move forward,
> whether
> it be to peace or war.  At least it'd be better than this suspense.
> This is
> certainly dividing NATO, which is the last thing we need.
>
> Kat
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BG Greer, PhD" <[log in to unmask]>
> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:25 AM
> Subject: War with Iraq
>
>
> > I stand corrrected. I did not know about Baez and Hanoi. As I said
> before,
> I
> > do not really approve of the war with Iraq. I thiink Bush is trying
to
> > disttract us from his failure with bin Laden. Convenntional war is
> horrible!
> > I have never known a person who survived combat to not have heavy
> emotional
> > baggage. PTSD if you will.What almost as bad as the you pilots who
> engage
> in
> > video wars with real munitions.