Could be - it was the same thing at Blue Cross Blue Shield when I worked there. 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: kat [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 8:05 AM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:           Re: I dont think this is a Black White thing...
> 
> The black people in my office building don't do that sort of thing.  They work
> just as hard and long as everyone else, no excessive talking, etc.  I think
> it's the workplace attitude more than a race thing.
> 
> My niece who is white, has dated black guys and Hispanic guys.  She's been
> doing that ever since high school and she's 26 now.  It's no big deal.
> *shrugs*
> 
> Kat
> 
> On Monday 24 November 2003 07:04 am, you wrote:
> > Well, Deri,
> >
> >            I must tell you - what seems to be missed here - is the stereo
> > type about white people.  I live in DC. I love the way - the black people
> > here stereo type us - just becasue we are white and our lives are so easy -
> > we don't have problems  - its best to realize the knife cuts both ways - I
> > am with Ken on the black people I know are better off than I am. Bigger
> > houses, nicer neighborhoods, better lives ( no 11 hour  work days for them)
> > better education, sororities and frats, gold watchs, Movodo's, cruises and
> > fancy vacations - its freaking shame the true issues never get addressed
> > that the poor no matter what color get shafted - it so easy to pick a
> > scapegoat, and never look at the real cause. Maybe becasue I live in a
> > major metro area things are different -  the company I work for is really
> > equitably racially and foreignly represented - of the 61 people in the
> > office - 16 are black, 16 are foreign, that's little more than half. but of
> > the 61 - only 28 are female.  Our team of eleven is pretty equitably - 6
> > women - 5 guys - 5 black, 5 white and 1 foreign. And I must tell you the
> > black ladies I work with have lovely lives and kinda fit the stereo type
> > work wise, come in at 10, leave at 4, have at least an hour lunch, have
> > great yak sessions, lots of phone time, and have a TV running soaps all
> > day.
> >
> >
> >                                                             Trisha
> >
> > > On Friday 21 Nov 2003 10:03 pm, you wrote:
> > > > So I wont add to the list...I will say that I have a
> > > > daughter...NDA...23 yo college student.  Who happens to drive a Mustang
> > > > GT Convertible.  Shes stopped all the time...so I have to disagree Its
> > > > not a black/white thing. She drove a Hyuandi for 7 years and was never
> > > > stopped.  Had the Mustang for 3 months and has been stopped 3
> > > > times...from illegal lights..which she didnt have...to running a
> > > > policeman off the road 2 hours earlier...which she didnt do...to just
> > > > stopping her for the Hell of it.  My NDA 17 year old son drives an Neon
> > > > R/T...hes pulled over even more than she is...for no apparent reason...
> > >
> > > You are right Betty, its not just a black/white thing, however what you
> > > are describing above is the police reacting to perceived stereo types. A
> > > 17yr old male driving a Neon R/T = up to no good.
> > >
> > > Stereo types exist because they are a form of 'lazy thinking', its a form
> > > of short hand, you don't have to think too hard if you compartmentalize
> > > everyone into nice neat pigeon holes. But, if you happen to belong to a
> > > group which has a widespread negative stereo type it means odds of
> > > success are stacked against you. We all rail against the negative stereo
> > > type of being disabled when searching for employment, but it seems we
> > > employ the same 'short hand thinking' to other groups in society.
> > >
> > > Stereo typing people also has a self fulfilling element, "Disabled people
> > > are not as good employees as the TABs (if they were there would be a lot
> > > more disabled people in employment)".> 
> > >
> > > > If you or I were faced the charges that Michael Jackson faces...DYFS
> > > > would have been to our homes and taken our children away.  He spent
> > > > what an hour at the police station?  My brother in law got stopped last
> > > > week in NYC for making an improper turn...and actually spent the night
> > > > in jail...handcuffed and shackled...with people charged with murder.
> > > > Jackson is back in LV.
> > > >
> > > > I believe in the Innocent until found Guilty thing as well.  OJ got
> > > > off? Did that make him innocent?
> > >
> > > Afraid it did. I may not like the guy, I may wish the justice system was
> > > nearer perfection, but it would not be fair to treat him as guilty after
> > > his acquittal.
> > >
> > > > Something to think about for sure...
> > > >
> > > > Have a great weekend...
> > > > Betty
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Deri