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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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be a good article if it were true. 

--- "Kendall D. Corbett" <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Another interesting POV on the Michael J. Fox - Rush
> Limbaugh brouhaha
> (I've always wanted to use that word!)  ;-{)}
> 
>
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usads264948265oct26,0,6443351.story?coll=ny-uspolitics-headlines
> 
> Kendall
> 
> On 10/27/06, ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > thanks for the articles. there are those that
> state
> > just the oposite. i do not know which scienctist
> are
> > right.
> >
> > --- "Kendall D. Corbett"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Article on use of embryonic stem cell use in
> > > Parkinsons
> > >
> > >
> http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/99/4/2344
> > >
> > > Another article:
> > >
> > >
> http://ask.lub.lu.se/archive/00016097/01/nm1064.pdf
> > >
> > > states that there is little evidence that other
> > > types of stem cells
> > > work as well as embryonic cells:
> > >
> > >  "Neurons with dopaminergic phenotype surviving
> > > transplantation have
> > > been generated in culture from mouse and monkey
> > > embryonic stem cells
> > > (ESCs) and from neural stem cells (NSC's)
> derived
> > > from the fetal
> > > rodent and human brain.  There is little
> evidence
> > > that dopaminergic
> > > neurons can be made from NSCs in adult brain or
> from
> > > stem cells in
> > > other tissues."
> > >
> > > (Page 2 of the PDF, near the bottom of the left
> > > column.)
> > >
> > > Kendall
> > >
> > > On 10/27/06, Joshua Snyder <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > A while back, I remember a scientist stating
> that
> > > such
> > > > problems were likely with embryonic stem
> cells,
> > > but
> > > > not with adult (cord blood) stem cells.
> > > >
> > > > Two years ago, Miss Hwang Mi-soon was made to
> walk
> > > for
> > > > the first time after 19 years with adut stem
> cell
> > > > therapy:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/tech/200412/kt2004120317543511780.htm
> > > >
> > > > The story was buried:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi58.html
> > > >
> > > > We have to ask, why the huge push (and
> funding)
> > > for
> > > > embryonic stem cell research from the same
> folks
> > > who
> > > > want an abortuary in every neighborhood? Why
> the
> > > > elaborate ruse to divert us away from cord
> blood
> > > stem
> > > > cells?
> > > >
> > > > --- "Kendall D. Corbett"
> > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ken and Kat,
> > > > >
> > > > > I also wonder what would have happened had
> the
> > > study
> > > > > used rat stem
> > > > > cells rather than human stem cell implanted
> in
> > > rats.
> > > > >  A woman I worked
> > > > > with had a kidney transplant several years
> back,
> > > and
> > > > > later developed a
> > > > > tumor in that kidney and ureter.  I'm not
> saying
> > > for
> > > > > sure it was some
> > > > > form of auto immune response, but I'd think
> the
> > > > > likelihood of an
> > > > > autoimmune elated cancer developing would be
> > > higher
> > > > > when cros-species
> > > > > transplantation is performed.  I'm not
> > > advocating
> > > > > doing experimental
> > > > > research on humans, but a check to see if
> tumors
> > > > > develop in rats with
> > > > > Parkinson's who are given rat stem cells
> would
> > > seem
> > > > > logical.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kendall
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/27/06, Kathleen Salkin
> > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > The study was truly inconclusive as they
> > > killed
> > > > > the test animals
> > > > > > before any tumors formed.   So we don't
> know
> > > if
> > > > > the tumors would have
> > > > > > been benign or malignant, or even if they
> > > would
> > > > > have formed.  Also,
> > > > > > would this have been the result of
> short-term
> > > > > treatment or long-
> > > > > > term?  Too many questions to be really
> > > conclusive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kat
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 27 Oct 2006, at 00:37, Kendall D.
> Corbett
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ken,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is this the link you were talking about? 
> If
> > > so,
> > > > > it does indicate an
> > > > > > area where caution should be observed, but
> > > since
> > > > > there was improvement
> > > > > > of the Parkinson's symptoms, I'd say it's
> too
> > > > > early to abandon the
> > > > > > research entirely, especially since even
> in
> > > this
> > > > > study, the results
> > > > > > seem to be inconclusive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kendall
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
type=healthNews&storyID=2006-10-23T215819Z_01_TON379089_RTRUKOC_0_US-
> > > > > >
> > > STEM-CELLS.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsArt-C2-NextArticle-1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stem cells might cause brain tumors, study
> > > finds
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Injecting human
> > > embryonic
> > > > > stem cells into the
> > > > > > brains of Parkinson's disease patients may
> > > cause
> > > > > tumors to form, U.S.
> > > > > > researchers reported on Sunday.
> 
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