Tell us what's in error or is a deliberate misrepresentation, then, Ken

Kendall

On 10/27/06, ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> be a good article if it were true.
>
> --- "Kendall D. Corbett" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Another interesting POV on the Michael J. Fox - Rush
> > Limbaugh brouhaha
> > (I've always wanted to use that word!)  ;-{)}
> >
> >
> http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usads264948265oct26,0,6443351.story?coll=ny-uspolitics-headlines
> >
> > Kendall
> >
> > On 10/27/06, ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > thanks for the articles. there are those that
> > state
> > > just the oposite. i do not know which scienctist
> > are
> > > right.
> > >
> > > --- "Kendall D. Corbett"
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Article on use of embryonic stem cell use in
> > > > Parkinsons
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/99/4/2344
> > > >
> > > > Another article:
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://ask.lub.lu.se/archive/00016097/01/nm1064.pdf
> > > >
> > > > states that there is little evidence that other
> > > > types of stem cells
> > > > work as well as embryonic cells:
> > > >
> > > >  "Neurons with dopaminergic phenotype surviving
> > > > transplantation have
> > > > been generated in culture from mouse and monkey
> > > > embryonic stem cells
> > > > (ESCs) and from neural stem cells (NSC's)
> > derived
> > > > from the fetal
> > > > rodent and human brain.  There is little
> > evidence
> > > > that dopaminergic
> > > > neurons can be made from NSCs in adult brain or
> > from
> > > > stem cells in
> > > > other tissues."
> > > >
> > > > (Page 2 of the PDF, near the bottom of the left
> > > > column.)
> > > >
> > > > Kendall
> > > >
> > > > On 10/27/06, Joshua Snyder <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > A while back, I remember a scientist stating
> > that
> > > > such
> > > > > problems were likely with embryonic stem
> > cells,
> > > > but
> > > > > not with adult (cord blood) stem cells.
> > > > >
> > > > > Two years ago, Miss Hwang Mi-soon was made to
> > walk
> > > > for
> > > > > the first time after 19 years with adut stem
> > cell
> > > > > therapy:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/tech/200412/kt2004120317543511780.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > The story was buried:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi58.html
> > > > >
> > > > > We have to ask, why the huge push (and
> > funding)
> > > > for
> > > > > embryonic stem cell research from the same
> > folks
> > > > who
> > > > > want an abortuary in every neighborhood? Why
> > the
> > > > > elaborate ruse to divert us away from cord
> > blood
> > > > stem
> > > > > cells?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- "Kendall D. Corbett"
> > > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ken and Kat,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also wonder what would have happened had
> > the
> > > > study
> > > > > > used rat stem
> > > > > > cells rather than human stem cell implanted
> > in
> > > > rats.
> > > > > >  A woman I worked
> > > > > > with had a kidney transplant several years
> > back,
> > > > and
> > > > > > later developed a
> > > > > > tumor in that kidney and ureter.  I'm not
> > saying
> > > > for
> > > > > > sure it was some
> > > > > > form of auto immune response, but I'd think
> > the
> > > > > > likelihood of an
> > > > > > autoimmune elated cancer developing would be
> > > > higher
> > > > > > when cros-species
> > > > > > transplantation is performed.  I'm not
> > > > advocating
> > > > > > doing experimental
> > > > > > research on humans, but a check to see if
> > tumors
> > > > > > develop in rats with
> > > > > > Parkinson's who are given rat stem cells
> > would
> > > > seem
> > > > > > logical.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kendall
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10/27/06, Kathleen Salkin
> > > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > The study was truly inconclusive as they
> > > > killed
> > > > > > the test animals
> > > > > > > before any tumors formed.   So we don't
> > know
> > > > if
> > > > > > the tumors would have
> > > > > > > been benign or malignant, or even if they
> > > > would
> > > > > > have formed.  Also,
> > > > > > > would this have been the result of
> > short-term
> > > > > > treatment or long-
> > > > > > > term?  Too many questions to be really
> > > > conclusive.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kat
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 27 Oct 2006, at 00:37, Kendall D.
> > Corbett
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ken,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is this the link you were talking about?
> > If
> > > > so,
> > > > > > it does indicate an
> > > > > > > area where caution should be observed, but
> > > > since
> > > > > > there was improvement
> > > > > > > of the Parkinson's symptoms, I'd say it's
> > too
> > > > > > early to abandon the
> > > > > > > research entirely, especially since even
> > in
> > > > this
> > > > > > study, the results
> > > > > > > seem to be inconclusive.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kendall
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> type=healthNews&storyID=2006-10-23T215819Z_01_TON379089_RTRUKOC_0_US-
> > > > > > >
> > > > STEM-CELLS.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsArt-C2-NextArticle-1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Stem cells might cause brain tumors, study
> > > > finds
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Injecting human
> > > > embryonic
> > > > > > stem cells into the
> > > > > > > brains of Parkinson's disease patients may
> > > > cause
> > > > > > tumors to form, U.S.
> > > > > > > researchers reported on Sunday.
> >
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