however i guess more people bought it than did not. it
did work.
I can't imagine Prime minister Thatcher giving that
kind of talk. "i had so many oportunities in mind for
the faulkland islands." eyes glisening.
--- ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> i guess we have a different view.
>
> --- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Ken, I saw the 1 minute 45 second. That was not
> > whining.
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
> > Tamar Mag Raine
> > [log in to unmask]
> > www.cafepress.com/tamarmag
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 10:44:48 AM
> > Subject: Re: Obama experience
> >
> > i know there was a 15 second clip shown by most of
> > the
> > networks, and there was a clip closer to a minute.
> i
> > saw the long one with the glisening eyes and the
> > whining. i recognize a pity party and that is
> > exactly
> > what i saw.
> >
> > also you are right that for a woman to cry under
> > adverse circumstances is not negative, but for the
> > president to cry under adverse circumstances may
> > very
> > well be a whole different subject. i am sorry, but
>
> > she is not running for wife in chief or girl
> friend
> > in
> > chief, she is running for president, commander in
> > chief. for the commander in chief to be crying and
> > whining is negative.
> >
> > --- Kathy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Humph, just because a woman cries, it's a
> negative
> > > thing -- it wasn't a pity
> > > party!
> > >
> > > (and besides, she won, so it doesn't seem to
> have
> > > hurt her chances in the
> > > caucus.)
> > >
> > > Kat
> > >
> > >
> --------------------------------------------------
> > > From: "ken barber" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:19 AM
> > > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Subject: Re: Obama experience
> > >
> > > > looked like a pity party to me.
> > > >
> > > > --- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I didn't see the entire hilary thing, but
> what
> > I
> > > did
> > > >> see was not crying! I saw hilary being
> > passionate
> > > >> about the issues she says she cares about.
> > There
> > > is
> > > >> a difference guys!
> > > >>
> > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > >> http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
> > > >> Tamar Mag Raine
> > > >> [log in to unmask]
> > > >> www.cafepress.com/tamarmag
> > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > > >> From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >> To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 6:55:29 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: Obama experience
> > > >>
> > > >> well Virginia, you told me something I did
> not
> > > know
> > > >> about LBJ.
> > > >> WAR ON POVERTY..LOOKS LIKE POVETY WON!
> > > >>
> > > >> WATCHING THE RETURNS, RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE
> > > >> hILLARY'S DEMISE MIGHT HAVE BEEN EXAGERATED.
> > > >>
> > > >> sorry i can't seem to keep my fingers off the
> > > caps
> > > >> lock for some reason.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- Virginia Perry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Ken,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > As I understand it, LBJ's health was a
> > factor.
> > > He
> > > >> > didn't want the American public to lose
> > another
> > > >> > sitting president so soon after Kennedy.
> One
> > of
> > > my
> > > >> > sources says LBJ had an actuarial study
> done
> > in
> > > >> 1967
> > > >> > to see how long he had to live. In fact, he
> > > died
> > > >> in
> > > >> > January 1973, so his instinct in that was
> > > pretty
> > > >> > accurate. Of course, his party wasn't very
> > > >> > supportive, either, due to all the flak LBJ
> > was
> > > >> > taking on Vietnam. I sometimes wonder what
> he
> > > >> could
> > > >> > have accomplished if he hadn't been saddled
> > > with
> > > >> > Vietnam -- if he'd been able to really
> focus
> > on
> > > >> his
> > > >> > War on Poverty.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > But I guess my overall point was that
> > > experience
> > > >> > shouldn't always be THE deciding factor in
> an
> > > >> > election.> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:03:18
> > > -0700>
> > > >> > From: [log in to unmask]> Subject:
> Re:
> > > >> Obama
> > > >> > experience> To: [log in to unmask]>
> >
> > > >> > Virginia, et al,> > Carter ran in '76 as an
> > > >> "outside
> > > >> > the Beltway" candidate, and relied on his>
> > > >> executive
> > > >> > experience in Georgia. Reagan ran as an
> > > "outside
> > > >> the
> > > >> > Beltway"> candidate in 1980, and relied on
> > his
> > > >> > executive experience as Governor of>
> > > California.
> > > >> > Clinton ran as an "outside the Beltway"
> > > candidate
> > > >> in
> > > >> > '92, and> relied on his executive
> experience
> > as
> > > >> > governor of Arkansas. Johnson had a> lot of
> > > >> > Washington experience, and was vice
> president
> > > >> under
> > > >> > Kennedy, which> helped him a lot in his
> > > election
> > > >> in
> > > >> > 1964. It would have been interesting to>
> see
> > > what
> > > >> > would have happened if LBJ had run in '68.>
> > On
> > > Jan
> > > >> > 4, 2008 5:40 PM, Virginia Perry
> > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >> > wrote:> > > Historical note: Nixon won his
> > > first
> > > >> > term as president at least partly> >
> because
> > he
> > > >> ran
> > > >> > as the more experienced candidate (he'd
> been
> > > >> > vice-president> > before). More experience
> > can
> > > be
> > > >> > better, but it isn't always a guarantee of>
> >
>
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