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if there is a God in heaven Isreal is there to stay, you can decide if you think there is a God in heaven or not. Not going to make 10 red cents what you believe and what you do not believe. they will be there until the world ceases to exist. 

i am out of here. i have things to do. 


--- On Tue, 12/30/08, Deri James <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Deri James <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: israel  v. gaza
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 8:54 PM
> On Wednesday 31 December 2008 01:46:05 Tamar Raine wrote:
> > the news here says 384 gaza people killed and 1,500
> injured, many of them
> > children. 
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
> > Tamar Mag Raine
> > [log in to unmask]
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> 
> Mag,
> 
> Your figures are about right. My figure (of 62) was the
> number of "proveable" 
> civilians (i.e. chiefly children under 14 who cannot
> possibly 
> be "terrorists" - so are innocents).
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Deri
> 
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Deri James <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 5:32:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: Hello is there any budy out there?
> >
> > On Tuesday 30 December 2008 21:40:54 Meir Weiss wrote:
> > > Hamas is terrorists
> >
> > Hamas is a loose confederation of groups with widely
> different agendas and
> > imperfect central control. Much like Israel which has
> powerful
> > fundamentalist factions which are not controlled by
> central government.
> >
> > >  these so called palistinians?
> >
> > No. They are called Palestinians (because they have
> lived in and around
> > Palestine for centuries).
> >
> > > We KNOW they are egyptians in liniage
> >
> > !!! I'm a Celt.
> >
> > > Innocent persons
> >
> > Precisely, they are being killed. So far 4 Israelis
> and a minimum of 62
> > Palestinian civilians.
> >
> > >  I apologize in advance
> > >
> > > If one supports hamas?
> >
> > I believe you can (and should) condemn Israeli action
> without supporting
> > the more extremist views of Hamas.
> >
> > > You are a terrorist people with a sole goal to
> wipe israel off the map
> >
> > To some in Hamas, this seems the only way to stop
> Israels cruel oppression,
> > I don't, I see it as our duty to urge our
> governments to rein in the
> > excesses of Israel.
> >
> > > Like hitler.
> >
> > Huh! Israel, as a separate nation state, did not exist
> at the time of
> > Hitler!!
> >
> > > I can't manufacture sympathy for hamas et al
> > >
> > > They themselves are their OWN  worst enemy
> within themselves.
> > >
> > > Sorry
> > >
> > > They broke the cease fire early
> >
> > Both sides broke the ceasefire, the current fracas was
> instigated by
> > Israeli action.
> >
> > > They NEVER stopped the terrorism DURING  said
> cease fire
> >
> > (But it was drastically reduced, despite Israel
> continuing an inhumane
> > blockade, continuing walling in areas to produce
> almost ghetto like
> > conditions, continuing diverting water courses to
> deprive Palestinians of
> > the basic necessity for life).
> >
> > > It is them or me
> >
> > Can't it be you AND them? Has only 1 side the
> right to live?
> >
> > Cheers (and World Peace)
> >
> > Deri
> >
> 
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