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I can definitely tell you that charities can't take up the slack.  There's
no gurantee of money coming in. We work specifically to take up the slack in
government and private insurance and we are swamped with kids needing help.

Beth t the OT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> On Behalf Of Kathy Salkin
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:51 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: tax time is the pits
> 
> No, my net pay does not show my true pay, nor does it show 
> the true amount of taxes.  I also pay sales taxes locally as 
> well as property taxes.  My employer pays into my social 
> security as well as Medicare.  Do I resent the taxation?  No, 
> because without it, other people would be a lot worse off 
> without local government-sponsored health care or other programs.
> 
> I also donate to charities but I think if there were no 
> social welfare or other government-funded programs, charities 
> and other non- profits would not be able to make up the 
> shortfall.  I don't believe in handouts but I don't believe 
> in abandoning those in need of our help, either.  Now whether 
> someone decides to accept that help is their own decision but 
> it should be there if they need it.
> 
> Kat
> 
> 
> On Mar 25, 2007, at 5:09 PM, ken barber wrote:
> 
> > the fair tax fully finances the government programs.
> > just not with a income tax. it does relieve the poor from 
> paying any 
> > taxes. even the social security tax is taken away.
> >   and again you have 2 defrees because you chose to get two 
> degrees. 
> > again that choice might have been enabled by having some 
> finances that 
> > others do not, but, some is just unforunate and some is 
> choices made.
> > but even if people are poor becouse of their choices, if 
> they want to 
> > do better, then help them do so.
> >   again how much do you feel comfortable with th government 
> taking. of 
> > course you know that what you see on the check stub is not 
> all the tax 
> > you pay.
> >
> > --- Kathy Salkin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> I have a good job and two degrees and I am much better off 
> than those 
> >> less fortunate in society.  I also believe we have an 
> obligation to 
> >> support our fellow man for the common good; unfortunately not 
> >> everyone who is well off will be inclined to support those less 
> >> fortunate than they, and I think a fair tax goes a long 
> way towards 
> >> helping others and our government to achieve their goals.
> >>
> >> Consider this, then, since you seem to be so much against taxes - 
> >> without taxes, we would not  be able to support our troops or our 
> >> veterans although if you ask me, we have too little 
> oversight in that 
> >> area at the moment.  Conditions at the military and veterans'
> >> hospitals are a disgrace to our military.
> >>
> >> Kat
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 25, 2007, at 11:41 AM, ken barber wrote:
> >>
> >>> although i do think no tax at all is better.
> >>>
> >>> why should distributing wealth be one of the
> >> purposes
> >>> of taxes?
> >>> i agree that it is, but why should it be?
> >>>
> >>> --- Deri James <[log in to unmask]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sunday 25 March 2007 04:13, ken barber wrote:
> >>>>> did you study the plan?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course!! Can't think of an "unfairer" way of 
> distributing wealth 
> >>>> (which is one of the purposes of taxation).
> >>>>
> >>>> Did you read the interview with Edward Wolff at
> >>>>
> >>> <http://multinationalmonitor.org/mm2003/03may/
> >>> may03interviewswolff.html>?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>>
> >>>> Deri
> >>>>
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