Well said Pat.
Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!
On May 1, 2013, at 10:07 PM, Pat Byrne <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Before this gets even uglier lets all take a deep breath, count to
> ten and enjoy the apsects of the hobby that we like. There are lots
> of things to like and the parts that don't interest you, ignore
> them. And the amateurs who like the stuff you disdain are no more or
> less hams than are you.
> Pat, K9JAUAt 08:36 PM 5/1/2013, you wrote:
>> oh my god what a prick.. there are a lot of people who an not put up =
>> antennas, are in nursing homes or hospitals and the like, and who the =
>> fuck ar eyou to say they shouldn't use irlp or echo link. I can't call =
>> the simulator real radio, but rip and echo link are real radio. in fact =
>> irlp is by design radio to radio only. Perhaps someone should make t =
>> impossible for you to have antennas or god forbid care for yourself. =
>> should you be forced to not enjoy what may be the only hobby left to =
>> you? =20
>> I hope you never have to find out what it is like to not be able to =
>> have antennas. You are also being short sighted and foolish to also =
>> toss 2 meters in as not real radio. there are many aspects that are =
>> incredibly technical and challenging on 2m such as satellite =
>> communications weak signal work and public service activities. so =
>> before eyou open your mouth and insert both feet and your boat anchor =
>> think first or just go away
>>
>> On May 1, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Brian Sackrider <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi this isBrian Sackrider n8mnx and you need to rembember that lots of=20=
>>
>>> people live in places with very restrictive antenna restrictions I =
>> live in=20
>>> an apartment am I very limited on what antennas that will fit on my =
>> balcony=20
>>> and I use the cq100 program on my computer this is a vertual hf radio =
>> no=20
>>> it's real hf radio but it's all that some of us have you are required =
>> to=20
>>> send prove of your licence to by a membership on cq100. there is a 90 =
>> day=20
>>> free trial and then it cost 39 dollars per year. there people on it =
>> that=20
>>> are in nursing homes and in hhospitals and they can still can =
>> communicate=20
>>> and on the issue of echo link and irlp they are 2 other modes that =
>> people=20
>>> with antenna restrictions can still operate so it's always that people =
>> are=20
>>> to lazy to putup antenas please think and get your facts before you =
>> judge=20
>>> put yourself in our place I got my licence to communicate
>>> =20
>>> -----Original Message-----=20
>>> From: John Miller
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:25 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: 47 years as a ham
>>> =20
>>> When *I* pick up the phone, it generally is a complete waste of time =
>> but
>>> that's beside the point. I didn't get a radio license to talk =
>> on the=20
>>> phone
>>> or the internet, that's not radio and I'd be flat out embarrassed to =
>> brag
>>> about my last phone call to NY or skype call to TN or where ever it =
>> was all
>>> those months ago and I certainly would never call an internet =
>> conversation
>>> or phone call DX, accept a card or anything for it. Why anyone would =
>> get a
>>> radio license just to use the internet is well beyond me but then, =
>> that's
>>> why I never get on 2 meters, that's all anyone seems to do these days =
>> and
>>> they're so happy they never have to actually work to make a contact,
>>> upgrade, put up antennas or anything. As far as I'm concerned, they
>>> shouldn't be any part of radio with that attitude since they don't =
>> even know
>>> what radio is if they're calling the internet radio.
>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:47 AM
>>> Subject: Re: 47 years as a ham
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>>> So john, does that mean if you pick up a telephone you are just =
>> wasting
>>>> your
>>>> time?
>>>> How is that different than incorporating the Internet?=20
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