Lou,  What about on the top of a resonant 30x30 Steel roof?   


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-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lou Kline
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:07 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: gap titon

Hi Richard.  I guess my point was that I, too, found it necessary to get
the bottom of the antenna about 7 ft into the air.

I don't think it is conducive to ground mounting.

73, de Lou K2LKK


At 01:28 PM 6/28/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi;
>The thing that surprised me was that there was a gap titan for sale on 
>the arrl site and when talking with the owner I was advised that his 
>was mounted two feet above ground.  If I have the bottom of this 
>antenna pictured correctly it would seem that the horizontal sections 
>would get in the path with it that close to the ground.
>I'm still looking for a qualified installer or two and I've learned 
>that looking at an antenna in the box can be very annoying.
>Both the gap and butternut seem interesting although their approaches 
>are very different.
>Richard
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:22 PM
>Subject: Re: gap titon
>
>
>Hi.
>
>It isn't really a counterpoise in the classic sense but rather a 
>capacity hat (except it is on the bottom).  I have mine mounted on a 
>ten foot section of heavy walled masting, which is fastened to the tilt

>over base that GAP sells.  That base works extremely well, provided 
>that you dig a good hole and mount it in about four of the 80 lb. bags
of concrete.
>
>Mine has been severly tested--it went through all three rounds of 
>severe thunderstorms that we had last week and stayed up, which makes 
>it decidedly more rugged than some of the trees around here!
>
>I think the GAP can be a very reliable antenna if you mount it 
>properly, but it pays to over engineer it and try to make it as bomb 
>proof as possible.
>
>73, de Lou K2LKK
>
>
>
>At 11:03 AM 6/27/2007 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hi;
> >I believe Lou and others on this list are using this antenna.  I ran 
> >into someone using the antenna mounted six inches above ground.  Am I

> >correct that there is a counterpoise at the base?  Wonder how one 
> >avoids lawn mower issues with the counterpoise essentially at the
ground.
> >A picture is indeed a thousand words.
> >Richard
> >
> >
> >
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