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Anthony Vece <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 7 Jun 2007 12:00:20 -0400
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Hi Steve;

I have a friend of mine who uses the braid and he said it works just fine.

Try it.

It should work with no problem.

73 De Anthony W2AJV
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ECHOLINK NODE NUMBER: 74389

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Dresser 
  To: [log in to unmask] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [BLIND-HAMS] RFI problem.


  Hi Anthony,

  I had my shack in the uncivilized basement for years, and I like it up here 
  on the second floor, away from the rest of the house, and right near my 
  office.

  As I recall, there was nothing in the specs for my antenna about critical 
  lengths for ground wires, so I think I'll try using a coax and coupling 
  capacitors as a lead between the station ground and the earth.  I doubt it 
  will solve my RFI problems, but it may make the antenna play a little 
  better.

  Steve

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
  To: <[log in to unmask]>
  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 17:20
  Subject: Re: RFI problem.


  > Hi Steve;
  >
  > You need to re-configure the length and the possession of the ground wire.
  >
  > Also, see what kind of ground wire the antenna calls for and re-examine 
  > the
  > length.
  >
  > They should have something about it in the specs.
  >
  > And, if your shack is on the second floor, maybe you could re-locate it on
  > the first floor or better yet in the basement.
  >
  > This is my opinion and I found that this is what worked for me.
  >
  > 73 De Anthony W2AJV
  > [log in to unmask]
  > ECHOLINK NODE NUMBER: 74389
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
  > To: <[log in to unmask]>
  > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:29 AM
  > Subject: Re: [BLIND-HAMS] RFI problem.
  >
  >
  >> Anthony,
  >>
  >> I'm sure that's possible, but I trust an earth ground more than I trust
  >> grounding to a cold water pipe.  How can I find out, and how do I get rid
  >> of a ground loop if there is one?
  >>
  >> Steve
  >>
  >> ----- Original Message ----- 
  >> From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
  >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
  >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 22:27
  >> Subject: Re: RFI problem.
  >>
  >>
  >>> Hi Steve;
  >>>
  >>> You may have inadvertently created a grounding loop.
  >>>
  >>> 73 De Anthony W2AJV
  >>> [log in to unmask]
  >>> ECHOLINK NODE NUMBER: 74389
  >>>
  >>>  ----- Original Message -----=20
  >>>  From: Steve Dresser=20
  >>>  To: [log in to unmask]
  >>>  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:13 PM
  >>>  Subject: Re: [BLIND-HAMS] RFI problem.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>  John,
  >>>
  >>>  You make a good point that a cold water ground isn't necessarily a =
  >>> real=20
  >>>  ground.  On the other hand, I use three grounding rods, and I still =
  >>> have the=20
  >>>  problem.
  >>>
  >>>  Steve
  >>>
  >>>  ----- Original Message -----=20
  >>>  From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
  >>>  To: <[log in to unmask]>
  >>>  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:40
  >>>  Subject: Re: RFI problem.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>  > From my experience, some computer speakers, you're not going to fix =
  >>> it.=20
  >>>  > The
  >>>  > amplification in those is so cheap and garbage and unfiltered or =
  >>> anything,
  >>>  > it's just something you'll have to deal with more than likely. =
  >>> Grounding=20
  >>>  > to
  >>>  > a cold water pipe may not help either though as most often if you do 
  >>> =
  >>> it
  >>>  > after the meter, supposedly the meter can isolate you from that =
  >>> actually
  >>>  > grounding though I don't always trust that, but worse than that, a =
  >>> lot of
  >>>  > times either the electrical can be grounded there which should make =
  >>> RFI
  >>>  > issues worse and when I was new and starting out, my water pipes =
  >>> acted as
  >>>  > part of the antenna when I did that. It never showed up on the SWR =
  >>> or
  >>>  > anything, but it caused a lot more RFI than it was supposed to fix =
  >>> and my
  >>>  > electrical is grounded separate from the water pipe because I have a 
  >>> =
  >>> well
  >>>  > and most of the line from the well to the tank in the cellar is PVC =
  >>> anyway
  >>>  > though I didn't know that at the time.
  >>>  > Short version is though, half the hams I know, myself included go =
  >>> through
  >>>  > computer speakers in some way, shape or form and there's really =
  >>> nothing=20
  >>>  > most
  >>>  > of us can do about it, a lot of us around here have tried everything 
  >>> =
  >>> there
  >>>  > is to tru and nothing helped short of just turning them off and =
  >>> using a=20
  >>>  > set
  >>>  > of headphones in my case. The sighted hams just shut them off and =
  >>> leave it
  >>>  > that way.
  >>>  > ----- Original Message -----=20
  >>>  > From: "Richard French" <[log in to unmask]>
  >>>  > To: <[log in to unmask]>
  >>>  > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:26 AM
  >>>  > Subject: RFI problem.
  >>>  >
  >>>  >
  >>>  >> Hi list.
  >>>  >> I grounded all my equipment to a cold water pipe, but I still come =
  >>> across
  >>>  >> my
  >>>  >> computer speakers.
  >>>  >> It's the only thing in the house I ever had RFI problems with.
  >>>  >> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
  >>>  >> Thanks in advance, and 73.
  >>>  >
  >>>  >
  >>>  >
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>
  >
  >
  >

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