Oh, is the radio under warrantee?  I might have missed that.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Pat Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:19 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG

i think that upgrading from a warrantied, dead on receipt is too
pricy.  But I can't find a new price for the older TS590.
Pat, K9JAUAt 11:10 AM 8/4/2015, you wrote:
>Actually a price of $600 doesn't seem excessive to me.  If you consider 
>what
>you'd spend just selling a used TS-590S that worked, and then buying a new
>sg, it would probably be around a $600 difference.  Given this is a
>non-working rig, $600 sounds reasonable.
>--
>Jim, ke5al
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Butch Bussen
>Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:10 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
>
>That sounds like to much.  How long have you had this radio?  If you
>can, I'd dispute the charge with your credit card company and go
>shopping for a gs elsewhere.  BTW, there are no differences in controls
>on the front pannel, a few menu changes.  I haven't heard anything about
>transmit audio either, a little better receiver performance.
>73
>Butch
>WA0VJR
>Node 3148
>Wallace, ks.
>
>
>On Mon, 3 Aug
>2015, Dr. Ronald E. Milliman wrote:
>
> > Well, the defective TS-590S is on its way back to R&L Electronics. We
> > shall
> > see what they tell me when they receive it and check it out for
> > themselves.
> > If I can work out a deal where it doesn't cost me a ton of money, I'm
> > going
> > to up-grade to the TS-590SG model. However, the first fellow I talked to
> > wasn't the head honcho, and when I talked later to the top guy, he was 
> > so
> > willing to work with me on just up-grading to the new model with my 
> > paying
> > a
> > reasonable difference. Nothing has been decided yet, but I got the 
> > strong
> > impression that it might end up costing me $600 to $700 difference to 
> > get
> > the TS-590SG. Like Pat said, for those kinds of dollars, I could buy a 
> > new
> > MFJ 998 automatic antenna tuner!
> >
> > Thanks again guys for all your feedback and help!
> >
> > Ron, K8HSY
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: For blind ham radio operators 
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 4:40 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
> >
> > For what it's worth, I second Jim and Butch on this one!
> >
> > Besides, then, we'll have another expert on the new TS590SG on the list
> > who
> > can assist the rest of us on its inner workings as time progresses.
> > (smile)
> >
> > Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: For blind ham radio operators 
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > On Behalf Of Jim Shaffer
> > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 1:37 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
> >
> > Ron, I'd take the new sg deal in a heart beat.  You won't get your 
> > TS-590S
> > fixed for nothing in any case.  It sounds like they're making you a very
> > reasonable offer.
> > --
> > Jim, ke5al
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dr. Ronald E. Milliman
> > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 12:07 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
> >
> > Butch, thanks for your reply. I've read several reviews since sending 
> > out
> > my
> > earlier post to the list this morning, and all of the reviews I read 
> > where
> > people had firsthand experience with both models of the TS-590, say the
> > TS-590SG is quite a bit better, both the transmitter audio quality and 
> > the
> > receiver's sensitivity and selectivity. As much as I like my other
> > TS-590s,
> > the one I have at the lake, I can't imagine how the newer model could be
> > that much better, but evidently it is.
> >
> > Ron, K8HSY
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: For blind ham radio operators 
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
> > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 11:34 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
> >
> > There is a review which discusses the differences in I think July q s t.
> >  I don't think the controls are different, they've changed receiver a 
> > bit,
> > and allow you to split off the antenna for another receiver.  I'd 
> > probably
> > pay the differnece just to avoid the delay.  Good luck.
> > 73
> > Butch
> > WA0VJR
> > Node 3148
> > Wallace, ks.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 3
> > Aug 2015, Dr. Ronald E. Milliman wrote:
> >
> >> I just got off the phone with R&L Electronics concerning my defective
> >> TS-590s. We are discussing two options:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1.       Send my defective transceiver back and have it repaired or
> > replaced
> >> under the warranty or
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2.       Send it back and have it replaced with a new TS-590SG with my
> >> paying the difference of between $250 and $300.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Do any of you have any experience with the two models; that is, do any
> >> of you have any knowledge of whether the TS-590SG is worth the $250 or
> >> $300 difference I would have to pay to get the newest model?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The issue came up when R&L told me that they didn't have any TS-590's
> >> in stock to send me if my current one had to be replaced. However,
> >> they have 3
> >>
> >> TS-590SG models in stock, which they could ship out as soon as they
> >> received mine. They also said that since they didn't have any TS-590s
> >> units that they would most likely just turn around and re-ship my
> >> defective radio to Kenwood for repair, and if that were the case, they
> >> would have me just send mine back directly to Kenwood to begin with.
> >> So, something that seems so simple turns out to be a bit complicated.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The real question is .
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Is the newest TS-590SG worth the difference I would have to pay if I
> >> were to have R&L simply ship me out the newest model rather than
> >> waiting to have mine repaired???
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm leaning toward just having my TS-590 repaired and sent back to me
> >> since I already have another TS-590s and I am extremely familiar with
> >> that model, rather than having two different models that have slightly
> >> different controls and menu selections. Though I don't feel strongly
> >> either way. Any recommendations???
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ron, K8HSY
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dr. Ronald E. Milliman
> >>
> >> Retired Professor of Marketing
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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