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Pat Byrne <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:31:08 -0500
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i believe that it is Jim.  Ron bought it recently.
patAt 12:10 PM 8/4/2015, you wrote:
>Oh, is the radio under warrantee?  I might have missed that.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Pat Byrne
>Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 11:19 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
>
>i think that upgrading from a warrantied, dead on receipt is too
>pricy.  But I can't find a new price for the older TS590.
>Pat, K9JAUAt 11:10 AM 8/4/2015, you wrote:
> >Actually a price of $600 doesn't seem excessive to me.  If you consider
> >what
> >you'd spend just selling a used TS-590S that worked, and then buying a new
> >sg, it would probably be around a $600 difference.  Given this is a
> >non-working rig, $600 sounds reasonable.
> >--
> >Jim, ke5al
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Butch Bussen
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:10 AM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
> >
> >That sounds like to much.  How long have you had this radio?  If you
> >can, I'd dispute the charge with your credit card company and go
> >shopping for a gs elsewhere.  BTW, there are no differences in controls
> >on the front pannel, a few menu changes.  I haven't heard anything about
> >transmit audio either, a little better receiver performance.
> >73
> >Butch
> >WA0VJR
> >Node 3148
> >Wallace, ks.
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 3 Aug
> >2015, Dr. Ronald E. Milliman wrote:
> >
> > > Well, the defective TS-590S is on its way back to R&L Electronics. We
> > > shall
> > > see what they tell me when they receive it and check it out for
> > > themselves.
> > > If I can work out a deal where it doesn't cost me a ton of money, I'm
> > > going
> > > to up-grade to the TS-590SG model. However, the first fellow I talked to
> > > wasn't the head honcho, and when I talked later to the top guy, he was
> > > so
> > > willing to work with me on just up-grading to the new model with my
> > > paying
> > > a
> > > reasonable difference. Nothing has been decided yet, but I got the
> > > strong
> > > impression that it might end up costing me $600 to $700 difference to
> > > get
> > > the TS-590SG. Like Pat said, for those kinds of dollars, I could buy a
> > > new
> > > MFJ 998 automatic antenna tuner!
> > >
> > > Thanks again guys for all your feedback and help!
> > >
> > > Ron, K8HSY
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: For blind ham radio operators
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > On Behalf Of Tom Behler
> > > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 4:40 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
> > >
> > > For what it's worth, I second Jim and Butch on this one!
> > >
> > > Besides, then, we'll have another expert on the new TS590SG on the list
> > > who
> > > can assist the rest of us on its inner workings as time progresses.
> > > (smile)
> > >
> > > Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: For blind ham radio operators
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > On Behalf Of Jim Shaffer
> > > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 1:37 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
> > >
> > > Ron, I'd take the new sg deal in a heart beat.  You won't get your
> > > TS-590S
> > > fixed for nothing in any case.  It sounds like they're making you a very
> > > reasonable offer.
> > > --
> > > Jim, ke5al
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dr. Ronald E. Milliman
> > > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 12:07 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
> > >
> > > Butch, thanks for your reply. I've read several reviews since sending
> > > out
> > > my
> > > earlier post to the list this morning, and all of the reviews I read
> > > where
> > > people had firsthand experience with both models of the TS-590, say the
> > > TS-590SG is quite a bit better, both the transmitter audio quality and
> > > the
> > > receiver's sensitivity and selectivity. As much as I like my other
> > > TS-590s,
> > > the one I have at the lake, I can't imagine how the newer model could be
> > > that much better, but evidently it is.
> > >
> > > Ron, K8HSY
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: For blind ham radio operators
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
> > > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 11:34 AM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
> > >
> > > There is a review which discusses the differences in I think July q s t.
> > >  I don't think the controls are different, they've changed receiver a
> > > bit,
> > > and allow you to split off the antenna for another receiver.  I'd
> > > probably
> > > pay the differnece just to avoid the delay.  Good luck.
> > > 73
> > > Butch
> > > WA0VJR
> > > Node 3148
> > > Wallace, ks.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 3
> > > Aug 2015, Dr. Ronald E. Milliman wrote:
> > >
> > >> I just got off the phone with R&L Electronics concerning my defective
> > >> TS-590s. We are discussing two options:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 1.       Send my defective transceiver back and have it repaired or
> > > replaced
> > >> under the warranty or
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2.       Send it back and have it replaced with a new TS-590SG with my
> > >> paying the difference of between $250 and $300.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Do any of you have any experience with the two models; that is, do any
> > >> of you have any knowledge of whether the TS-590SG is worth the $250 or
> > >> $300 difference I would have to pay to get the newest model?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The issue came up when R&L told me that they didn't have any TS-590's
> > >> in stock to send me if my current one had to be replaced. However,
> > >> they have 3
> > >>
> > >> TS-590SG models in stock, which they could ship out as soon as they
> > >> received mine. They also said that since they didn't have any TS-590s
> > >> units that they would most likely just turn around and re-ship my
> > >> defective radio to Kenwood for repair, and if that were the case, they
> > >> would have me just send mine back directly to Kenwood to begin with.
> > >> So, something that seems so simple turns out to be a bit complicated.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The real question is .
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Is the newest TS-590SG worth the difference I would have to pay if I
> > >> were to have R&L simply ship me out the newest model rather than
> > >> waiting to have mine repaired???
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I'm leaning toward just having my TS-590 repaired and sent back to me
> > >> since I already have another TS-590s and I am extremely familiar with
> > >> that model, rather than having two different models that have slightly
> > >> different controls and menu selections. Though I don't feel strongly
> > >> either way. Any recommendations???
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Ron, K8HSY
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dr. Ronald E. Milliman
> > >>
> > >> Retired Professor of Marketing
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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