John,
While I agree that menus may be necessary, they can still be designed to
make operation easy or difficult. The 480 is a good example of a radio with
several menus, but one which is still easy to use. My complaint with Icom
is the design of the menus, not the fact that they're there.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:27
Subject: Re: ic7000
> With a radio that size, I don't see any other way, the buttons are very
> limited and maxed out already. I think you'll find that's going to be a
> new
> trend on the radios for all of them in the near future. The small ones
> anyway, if it's not already and I think in most cases it is.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:16 AM
> Subject: Re: ic7000
>
>
>> John,
>>
>> I probably wouldn't adjust power that often either, but my point is that
>> you
>> shouldn't have to go into a menu to do it.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:32
>> Subject: Re: ic7000
>>
>>
>>> you adjust power and mic gain that often? I set it once and forget it as
>>> does almost everyone I know. Especially mobile. The 706 is actually easy
>>> to
>>> use if you take the time to learn it, even the power and stuff if you
>>> can
>>> listen for the long beep. My 706 stays at 80 watts, because they get a
>>> little dirty after that point as do all the small radios so you can
>>> actually
>>> get more out of 80 watts than 100.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: ic7000
>>>
>>>
>>>> Lou,
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to bash Icom because I think they make some great radios,
>>>> but
>>>> from what I've seen, the menus in the 706 aren't very friendly to
>>>> anyone,
>>>> blind or sighted. Who in their right mind would make you go into a
>>>> menu
>>>> just to adjust power level or Mic gain? Clearly, this radio wasn't
>>>> designed
>>>> by anyone who understands the needs of a radio operator. This is a
>>>> mobile
>>>> radio, and the last thing you need while driving is to be trying to
>>>> pick
>>>> your way through complicated menus. It's an accident waiting to
>>>> happen.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 21:12
>>>> Subject: Re: ic7000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just don't like the way that Icom does menus period. I've never
>>>>> found
>>>>> the Icom IC706 Mk IIg to be that blind friendly. That is why I have a
>>>>> TS2000S now. Unless Icom changes their design pretty dramatically,
>>>>> it's
>>>>> pretty unlikely that they will sell me another radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, de Lou K2LKK
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 08:04 AM 10/22/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>Hi John;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As long as you can remember where your menus are set you'll be
>>>>>><<>fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I had a 7000 and it drove me up a wall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>73 De Anthony W2AJV
>>>>>>[log in to unmask]
>>>>>>ECHOLINK NODE NUMBER: 74389
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:49 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: ic7000
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > The speech board is made in to it. I didn't play with it for
>>>>>> > accessibility,
>>>>>> > but did play with one at HRO a couple years ago and for what it is,
>>>>>> > it's
>>>>>> > pretty impressive compared to the 706. If I didn't have the 706
>>>>>> > already
>>>>>> > I'd
>>>>>> > probably get 1 of those for my go kit but I have the 706 and hardly
>>>>>> > use
>>>>>> > it
>>>>>> > other than a few times a year so it's not worth while replacing it
>>>>>> > now.
>>>>>> > Especially now that we officially can't afford to go away in the
>>>>>> > summer
>>>>>> > anymore which is where it got the most use.
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> > From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:31 PM
>>>>>> > Subject: ic7000
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Speaking of the ic7000, is there a speech board and I wonder how
>>>>>> >> usable
>>>>>> >> it
>>>>>> >> is? Has anyone had the chance to try one?
>>>>>> >> Richard
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Louis Kim Kline
>>>>> A.R.S. K2LKK
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