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Steve Dresser <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:14:31 -0500
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John,

You're right.  I wish they made it the other way, like Icom.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 19:23
Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios


> nope, it's the bigger of the 2 on kenwoods, smaller on everything else.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>
>
>> Good question, Mark.  In Kenwood mics, I believe the smaller of the two
>> plugs is wired to the mic element.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mark" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 18:25
>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>>
>>
>>> OK, this brings up an interesting question. How should the mike element
>>> be
>>> wired?
>>>
>>> God bless,
>>> Marks
>>> Jesus Is Lord!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:17 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mark,
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like you've got your element across the PTT leads.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Mark" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 15:37
>>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>     Oddly, when I was tripping the VOX it was just the two wires
>>>>> touching
>>>>> with no mike element. Now that I attached the wires to the element it
>>>>> quit
>>>>> tripping the vox. Its an odd one.
>>>>>
>>>>> God bless,
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> Jesus Is Lord!
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:29 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> it trips the vox but there's no audio? strange, is your mic gain set
>>>>>> too
>>>>>> low? what if you crank it all the way up? any improvement? if it's
>>>>>> tripping
>>>>>> the vox there must be some audio there.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Mark" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:15 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>     Actually, I rewired the mike head to go directly from the 
>>>>>>> element
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the cord. Then I can use either VOX or the PTT for the Heil. On the
>>>>>>> plug,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am using the shield and the tip. These two seemed to trip the VOX on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> radio. So, I am puzzled.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> God bless,
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>> Jesus Is Lord!
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:31 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> are you using the ptt button on the mic? or the ptt you'd usually
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the heil mic? If the usual ptt switch, try the mic holding the ptt
>>>>>>>> button
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> the same time and see if maybe that switches the element on and 
>>>>>>>> off.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> think HT mics do use the voltage but it's possible, I haven't seen
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>> but there's got to be a reasonable reason, something's not wired
>>>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> that a 3 conductor plug on the HT mic? I need to check mine but if
>>>>>>>> so,
>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>> wondering if the audio is not the tip.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Mark" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:14 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>>>     I am not sure about if the microphone had power to the element
>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> rewired it but I was under the impression that microphones for
>>>>>>>>> handy
>>>>>>>>> talkies
>>>>>>>>> didn't actually use that style element. I really don't know.
>>>>>>>>>     The Heil headset still has good audio. its just physically 
>>>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>> days.
>>>>>>>>>     Actually, I am using the Heil adapter to plug the 3.5 MM plug
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> handy talkie mike in to the Kenwood.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> God bless,
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>> Jesus Is Lord!
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:42 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if the impedance was off, you'd have low audio but something 
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>> What it might be is, does the mic need power to work? and did you
>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>> it's getting it? Some of those mics need power to the element. 
>>>>>>>>>> Was
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> mic
>>>>>>>>>> working before? Also, what was the problem with the heil mic? it
>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> same was it?
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Mark" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:20 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mike Impedance for modern Radios
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>     I decided to convert one of my junk box two meter mikes to a
>>>>>>>>>>> mike
>>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> for my Kenwood TS 440 S. This will hold me over until my Heil
>>>>>>>>>>> head
>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> is repaired. The conversion went smoothly and every thing went
>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> until I tried to use the mike and no audio came out. I am sure
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> wiring is right. So, I am left with the question of would this 
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> issue of having the wrong impedance microphone? If so how does
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>> about changing the impedance?
>>>>>>>>>>>     Thank you in advance for your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> God bless,
>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Is Lord!
>>>>>
>>>
> 

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