John, You're right. I wish they made it the other way, like Icom. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 19:23 Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios > nope, it's the bigger of the 2 on kenwoods, smaller on everything else. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:57 PM > Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios > > >> Good question, Mark. In Kenwood mics, I believe the smaller of the two >> plugs is wired to the mic element. >> >> Steve >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mark" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 18:25 >> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios >> >> >>> OK, this brings up an interesting question. How should the mike element >>> be >>> wired? >>> >>> God bless, >>> Marks >>> Jesus Is Lord! >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:17 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios >>> >>> >>>> Mark, >>>> >>>> Sounds like you've got your element across the PTT leads. >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mark" <[log in to unmask]> >>>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 15:37 >>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi John, >>>>> Oddly, when I was tripping the VOX it was just the two wires >>>>> touching >>>>> with no mike element. Now that I attached the wires to the element it >>>>> quit >>>>> tripping the vox. Its an odd one. >>>>> >>>>> God bless, >>>>> Mark >>>>> Jesus Is Lord! >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:29 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> it trips the vox but there's no audio? strange, is your mic gain set >>>>>> too >>>>>> low? what if you crank it all the way up? any improvement? if it's >>>>>> tripping >>>>>> the vox there must be some audio there. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Mark" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:15 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi John, >>>>>>> Actually, I rewired the mike head to go directly from the >>>>>>> element >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> the cord. Then I can use either VOX or the PTT for the Heil. On the >>>>>>> plug, >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> am using the shield and the tip. These two seemed to trip the VOX on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> radio. So, I am puzzled. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> God bless, >>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>> Jesus Is Lord! >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:31 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> are you using the ptt button on the mic? or the ptt you'd usually >>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> the heil mic? If the usual ptt switch, try the mic holding the ptt >>>>>>>> button >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> the same time and see if maybe that switches the element on and >>>>>>>> off. >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>> think HT mics do use the voltage but it's possible, I haven't seen >>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>> yet >>>>>>>> but there's got to be a reasonable reason, something's not wired >>>>>>>> right. >>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>> that a 3 conductor plug on the HT mic? I need to check mine but if >>>>>>>> so, >>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>> wondering if the audio is not the tip. >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Mark" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:14 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi John, >>>>>>>>> I am not sure about if the microphone had power to the element >>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> rewired it but I was under the impression that microphones for >>>>>>>>> handy >>>>>>>>> talkies >>>>>>>>> didn't actually use that style element. I really don't know. >>>>>>>>> The Heil headset still has good audio. its just physically >>>>>>>>> seen >>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>> days. >>>>>>>>> Actually, I am using the Heil adapter to plug the 3.5 MM plug >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> handy talkie mike in to the Kenwood. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> God bless, >>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>> Jesus Is Lord! >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:42 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mike Impedance for modern Radios >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> if the impedance was off, you'd have low audio but something >>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>> What it might be is, does the mic need power to work? and did you >>>>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>>> sure >>>>>>>>>> it's getting it? Some of those mics need power to the element. >>>>>>>>>> Was >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> mic >>>>>>>>>> working before? Also, what was the problem with the heil mic? it >>>>>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> same was it? >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Mark" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:20 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mike Impedance for modern Radios >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>> I decided to convert one of my junk box two meter mikes to a >>>>>>>>>>> mike >>>>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>>>> for my Kenwood TS 440 S. This will hold me over until my Heil >>>>>>>>>>> head >>>>>>>>>>> set >>>>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>>>> is repaired. The conversion went smoothly and every thing went >>>>>>>>>>> well >>>>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>>>> until I tried to use the mike and no audio came out. I am sure >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>>>> wiring is right. So, I am left with the question of would this >>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>>>> issue of having the wrong impedance microphone? If so how does >>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>>>>> = >>>>>>>>>>> about changing the impedance? >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance for your help. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> God bless, >>>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Is Lord! >>>>> >>> >