Howard,

I don't think the file list is being truncated by Jaws, but even if it is, 
you can get around it by pressing Alt plus one of the numbers 1 through 7. 
Each of these numbers will read one of the items in the details (date 
modified, file size, file type, etc.).  Even when the information isn't 
visible, these functions will read the items correctly.  I'm sure this is 
covered somewhere in JFW's Help system, but I don't know where, and didn't 
learn it from there anyway.  A friend of mine told me about all this just a 
few weeks ago, and I've been using it to good advantage since.  You can also 
customize the details list in Windows itself, and part of that customization 
is the ability to increase the size of the columns.  It's a pain to do, and 
involves locking the left mouse button and dragging the column headers right 
or left, but it can be done if you have the patience.  Of course, it's much 
easier to do if you can get sighted assistance, which I realize is often not 
easy or even possible.  I'm totally blind, and I've done it, but I'd really 
rather not, which is why I like the functions I've described above.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:43
Subject: Re: I WAS BOUNCED FROM THE JAWS MAILING LIST!!!


> Yes it shows off scripting nicely.  the window-eyes title bar reads
> the information manually, and I don't know why it can'b be triggered
> automatically, but I sure haven't been able to do it, and I figure
> their are minds much better than nmine who would have done it if it
> was easy.  I don't want and have tried not to be catigorized as a
> freedom jfw basher, just because it is big.  I have tried to advocate
> for choice and to express valid concerns about jfw and freedom
> scientiffic's draw bbacks.  No company or product is perfect.  The
> issue here is that their are a number of choices.  People aught to be
> able to make enformed choices about the options, especially when the
> money on the table is their own money.
> Most all of what we do is windows, and not screen reader spaciffic
> after all.  A competant computer user who needs one screen reader for
> work, but has learned on another, should be able to make the transition.
> It's not exactly like going from unix to windows.  People make the
> chasum that wide.  but windows hot keys are in windows, not in any
> screen reader.  I hear that jfw takes over a few of them, but their
> is still a bypass key if necessary, and I think most of that is in
> name, not in function.
> I use window-eyes when I can, and jfw when I have to.
> I wonder, what do you have to do to get jfw to read a file list with
> your chosen details properly.  Their way of trunkating names makes
> many operations very difficult.  I assume their is a work around
> which I wish they would put in their default set up.
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