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Veronica,
 
Hopefully, he didn't lose your JAWS authorization key in the process.
 
Jeff
 
 

Jeffrey C. Senge
Information & Computer Access Program Coordinator
California State University, Fullerton
(714) 278-7253
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        -----Original Message-----
        From: EASI's Library Accessibility Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Veronica Smith
        Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 12:11 PM
        To: [log in to unmask]
        Subject: Re: Jaws, Ruby Open Book, and other questions
	
	
        Jeff,
	
        Thanks so much!  This is pretty much what I thought, but since I
didn't have time to check into it myself before he removed Jaws, I was
somewhat stuck with his decision.  Looks like I'll have to have some
further discussions with him on this issue.
	
        Veronica
	
        At 12:17 PM 07/01/2004, you wrote:
	

                Veronica,
                 
                While both Open Book and JAWS read the computer screen,
Open Book only works within the Open Book program where JAWS works with
most other standard Windows applications like MS Office programs.  There
is clearly a difference and you are right, not your tech advisor in this
case.  The newer versions of Open Book include a program called Connect
Outloud but its a much more limited screen reader only working with the
programs built into the Windows operating system.  These would include
things like the desktop, note pad, word pad, and Internet Explorer.  To
have screen reader access to programs like Word, Excel, Power Point,
Outlook, etc. a full screen reader like JAWS is required.
                 
                I hope this helps to answer your question...
                 
                Jeff
                 
                 
        	
                Jeffrey C. Senge
                Information & Computer Access Program Coordinator
                California State University, Fullerton
                (714) 278-7253
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                        -----Original Message-----
                	
                        From: EASI's Library Accessibility Discussion
List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Veronica Smith
                	
                        Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 10:12 AM
                	
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                        Subject: Jaws, Ruby Open Book, and other
questions
                	
                	
                        We are in the process of upgrading the adaptive
technology workstation that we use for both students and public patrons
(as we are a joint library with Front Range Community College).   While
I was on vacation, the adaptive specialist for the College updated some
of the software on this computer and removed one of the programs, much
to my dismay.
                	
                	
                        Originally, we had the following installed:
Jaws, Ruby Open Book, Wynn, Dragon Naturally Speaking, and Zoomtext. I
researched  these programs 4 years ago and we felt that we were covering
a wide range of disabilities with these programs.  I haven't had time to
research them since, and so I don't really know what new capabilities
they have.
                	
                	
                        The program the specialist removed was the JAWS
screen reader.  He said it was because the newer versions of Ruby Open
Book do everything that Jaws can do and so it wasn't necessary to have
both.  This was not the case 4 years ago, when I did my research, so now
I'm wondering if this is true or if he really doesn't understand the
differences between the two programs?   Has anyone used the latest Ruby
Open Book (sorry I don't know the version number)? What do you think?
Is he correct?
                	
                	
                        Also, if you look at the the programs that I
listed above, is there any overlap in coverage?  I know Zoomtext will do
some screen reading, but in the versions that I initially installed,
Jaws worked much more effectively and was also more widely known by
blind patrons (so they didn't have to learn how to use it when they came
to the library).
                	
                	
                        We are planning to move this station out to a
public area and so will probably remove Dragon, but I would like to see
the other programs (Wynn, Ruby, Jaws, and Zoomtext) stay.  What do you
think?
                	
                	
                        Thanks for you help,
                	
                	
                        Veronica
                	
                	
                	
                	
                	
                	
                        Veronica Smith
                	
                        Automation Coordinator
                	
                        Westminster Public Library
                	
                        3705 W. 112th Ave.
                	
                        Westminster, CO 80031
                	
                        (303) 404-5110
                	
                	
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        Veronica Smith
        Automation Coordinator
        Westminster Public Library
        3705 W. 112th Ave.
        Westminster, CO 80031
        (303) 404-5110
	
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