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----- Original Message -----
From: "Wilmot B. Valhmu" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: What's happening to Christmas?
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> Professor,
>
> Regarding the glorification of Christ at Christmas, I did not
> express a requirement. I only wished that we all concur or agree.
> Nothing more.
>
> What I do require is that people do not suppress, prohibit, or
> otherwise curtail the mention of Christ. That I'd have issues with.
>
> Have a Merry Christmas!
>
> - Wilmot
>
>
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> From: ALIKO SONGOLO <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2004/12/21 Tue PM 03:13:38 CST
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: What's happening to Christmas?
>
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> The requirement that everyone concur on anything--even
> Christians--smacks of totalitarian thought.
>
> AS
>
> Aliko SONGOLO <[log in to unmask]>
> Professor
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> - Dept. of French & Italian
> - Dept. of African Languages & Literature
> Van Hise Hall
> University of Wisconsin
> 1220 Linden Drive
> Madison, WI 53706
> Fr&It 608-262-5937,-3941,265-3892(fax)
> AL&L 608-263-3891,2-2487,265-4151(fax)
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wilmot B. Valhmu" <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:25 pm
> Subject: Re: What's happening to Christmas?
>
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> > Auntie Emilie,
> >
> > My hope is that Christ, not commercialization, is glorified at
> > Christmas. He's the reason for Christmas. That's the thing on
> > which I wish us all, especially Christians, to concur.
> >
> > I have no problem with people saying to me, "Happy Chanukah",
> > "Happy New Year", etc. Just don't suppress or prohibit the mention
> > of Christ. I have it on authority that some of the clerks at some
> > businesses are forbidden by their proprietors to say "Merry
> > Christmas". Is that a sign of inclusiveness? I think not.
> >
> > Merry Christmas, Auntie!
> >
> > - Wilmot
> >
> > ============================================================
> > From: Emilie Ngo Nguidjol <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 2004/12/21 Tue AM 11:50:58 CST
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: What's happening to Christmas?
> >
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> >
> > Do you know that Christmas was "purged" by the Christian-in-Chief
> > yesterday?
> > He started his speech with "Happy Holidays!"
> > So don't forget to include him when you start letting people beyond
> > this list know how you feel about the demise of Christmas.
> >
> > Besides, do you know that the Christians appropriated a European
> pagan> holiday that was celebrated during the Winter Solstice (the
> > birthday of
> > the sun god)? So before you start defending Christmas and
> ignoring the
> > other holidays around this time of the year, you may also want to
> > remember that by the late second century, different groups of
> > christians held divergent ideas on the date of Christ's Birth. Why
> > would you expect all of us on this list "concur"?
> >
> > While the debate on Christmas continues,
> >
> > Have Happy holidays!
> > --Emilie
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Wilmot B. Valhmu" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Monday, December 20, 2004 12:45 pm
> > Subject: What's happening to Christmas?
> >
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> > >
> > > Hi, everyone!
> > >
> > > Have you noticed? Christmas is being purged. Believe it!
> > >
> > > This year, I have not seen the word "Christmas" in any commercial
> > > establishment to which I've been, save for Christian bookstores.
> > > What about you? Have you seen any displays of "Merry Christmas"
> > > anywhere?
> > > Most department stores have substituted "Happy Holidays" or
> > > "Season's Greetings" for "Merry Christmas". What's up with that?
> > > If Christmas is that for which we are buying all the gifts, then
> > > why won't some acknowledge it?
> > >
> > > I started taking note of this a few weeks ago when I listened
> to a
> > > talk show on a local Christian radio station, discussing the issue
> > > of Target stores forbidding the Salvation Army from soliciting in
> > > front of their stores. It seems that for the sake of political
> > > correctness or some undisclosed reasons, references to Christ
> > > (Jesus Christ) are systematically being eliminated from public
> > > discourse or establishments. This is outrageous, especially where
> > > Christmas is concerned, considering that Jesus Christ is the
> > > reason why we celebrate Christmas. There is no Christmas, or
> > > legitimate reason for celebrating December 25th as a holiday,
> > > without Him.
> > >
> > > Christians are taking note. If the secularists want to eliminate
> > > God or Christ from our culture, then we are all gamed for a fight.
> > > We will not take this lying down.
> > >
> > > Starting next Christmas season, I will let store managers know how
> > > I feel about this issue. And if need be, I will only celebrate
> > > Christ at Christmas and stop buying and sending gifts. It is more
> > > important that Christ is glorified at Christmas, not the
> > > commercialized sending of gifts.
> > >
> > > My hope is that we all, especially Christians, concur.
> > >
> > > Have a blessed day!
> > >
> > > - Wilmot
> > >
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