** Please visit our website: http://www.africanassociation.org ** A "wish" is a powerful thing. AS Aliko SONGOLO <[log in to unmask]> Professor ***************************** - Dept. of French & Italian - Dept. of African Languages & Literature Van Hise Hall University of Wisconsin 1220 Linden Drive Madison, WI 53706 Fr&It 608-262-5937,-3941,265-3892(fax) AL&L 608-263-3891,2-2487,265-4151(fax) *************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilmot B. Valhmu" <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:40 pm Subject: Re: What's happening to Christmas? > ** Please visit our website: http://www.africanassociation.org ** > > Professor, > > Regarding the glorification of Christ at Christmas, I did not > express a requirement. I only wished that we all concur or agree. > Nothing more. > > What I do require is that people do not suppress, prohibit, or > otherwise curtail the mention of Christ. That I'd have issues with. > > Have a Merry Christmas! > > - Wilmot > > > ============================================================ > From: ALIKO SONGOLO <[log in to unmask]> > Date: 2004/12/21 Tue PM 03:13:38 CST > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: What's happening to Christmas? > > ** Please visit our website: http://www.africanassociation.org ** > > The requirement that everyone concur on anything--even > Christians--smacks of totalitarian thought. > > AS > > Aliko SONGOLO <[log in to unmask]> > Professor > ***************************** > - Dept. of French & Italian > - Dept. of African Languages & Literature > Van Hise Hall > University of Wisconsin > 1220 Linden Drive > Madison, WI 53706 > Fr&It 608-262-5937,-3941,265-3892(fax) > AL&L 608-263-3891,2-2487,265-4151(fax) > *************************** > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wilmot B. Valhmu" <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:25 pm > Subject: Re: What's happening to Christmas? > > > ** Please visit our website: http://www.africanassociation.org ** > > > > Auntie Emilie, > > > > My hope is that Christ, not commercialization, is glorified at > > Christmas. He's the reason for Christmas. That's the thing on > > which I wish us all, especially Christians, to concur. > > > > I have no problem with people saying to me, "Happy Chanukah", > > "Happy New Year", etc. Just don't suppress or prohibit the mention > > of Christ. I have it on authority that some of the clerks at some > > businesses are forbidden by their proprietors to say "Merry > > Christmas". Is that a sign of inclusiveness? I think not. > > > > Merry Christmas, Auntie! > > > > - Wilmot > > > > ============================================================ > > From: Emilie Ngo Nguidjol <[log in to unmask]> > > Date: 2004/12/21 Tue AM 11:50:58 CST > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: What's happening to Christmas? > > > > ** Please visit our website: http://www.africanassociation.org ** > > > > Do you know that Christmas was "purged" by the Christian-in-Chief > > yesterday? > > He started his speech with "Happy Holidays!" > > So don't forget to include him when you start letting people beyond > > this list know how you feel about the demise of Christmas. > > > > Besides, do you know that the Christians appropriated a European > pagan> holiday that was celebrated during the Winter Solstice (the > > birthday of > > the sun god)? So before you start defending Christmas and > ignoring the > > other holidays around this time of the year, you may also want to > > remember that by the late second century, different groups of > > christians held divergent ideas on the date of Christ's Birth. Why > > would you expect all of us on this list "concur"? > > > > While the debate on Christmas continues, > > > > Have Happy holidays! > > --Emilie > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wilmot B. Valhmu" <[log in to unmask]> > > Date: Monday, December 20, 2004 12:45 pm > > Subject: What's happening to Christmas? > > > > > ** Please visit our website: http://www.africanassociation.org ** > > > > > > Hi, everyone! > > > > > > Have you noticed? Christmas is being purged. Believe it! > > > > > > This year, I have not seen the word "Christmas" in any commercial > > > establishment to which I've been, save for Christian bookstores. > > > What about you? Have you seen any displays of "Merry Christmas" > > > anywhere? > > > Most department stores have substituted "Happy Holidays" or > > > "Season's Greetings" for "Merry Christmas". What's up with that? > > > If Christmas is that for which we are buying all the gifts, then > > > why won't some acknowledge it? > > > > > > I started taking note of this a few weeks ago when I listened > to a > > > talk show on a local Christian radio station, discussing the issue > > > of Target stores forbidding the Salvation Army from soliciting in > > > front of their stores. It seems that for the sake of political > > > correctness or some undisclosed reasons, references to Christ > > > (Jesus Christ) are systematically being eliminated from public > > > discourse or establishments. This is outrageous, especially where > > > Christmas is concerned, considering that Jesus Christ is the > > > reason why we celebrate Christmas. There is no Christmas, or > > > legitimate reason for celebrating December 25th as a holiday, > > > without Him. > > > > > > Christians are taking note. If the secularists want to eliminate > > > God or Christ from our culture, then we are all gamed for a fight. > > > We will not take this lying down. > > > > > > Starting next Christmas season, I will let store managers know how > > > I feel about this issue. And if need be, I will only celebrate > > > Christ at Christmas and stop buying and sending gifts. It is more > > > important that Christ is glorified at Christmas, not the > > > commercialized sending of gifts. > > > > > > My hope is that we all, especially Christians, concur. > > > > > > Have a blessed day! > > > > > > - Wilmot > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > - > > > --------- > > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, visit: > > > > > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/aam.html > > > > > > AAM Website: http://www.africanassociation.org > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > - > > > --------- > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- > > -------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, visit: > > > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/aam.html > > > > AAM Website: http://www.africanassociation.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- > > -------- > > ============================================================ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- > > -------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, visit: > > > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/aam.html > > > > AAM Website: http://www.africanassociation.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- > > -------- > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, visit: > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/aam.html > > AAM Website: http://www.africanassociation.org > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > ============================================================ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, visit: > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/aam.html > > AAM Website: http://www.africanassociation.org > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, visit: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/aam.html AAM Website: http://www.africanassociation.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------